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Name: ismail (No email address provided)
Time: 8/6/2002 (4:7:48)
most disallusioned white bigots should have rage. I mean lets deal with the facts in world history, at most 80% came from western europe to these shore because there is little to no natural resoures in the region they came from,the climate is a frozen,foggy, rainy region for the most part. Lets real quickly talk about there social customs at that time nobility verses the peasant,as they so divided themselves,childeren worked to death,or used for there pleasures,months without any hygene,which resulted in various plagues,and a influx of undesireables,rapists,the original con artists,robbers,pirates,and extreme fanatics start to be a problem.They were told by a "plundering bafoon" if,i may coin one of your european term that labled himself as a great navigator to come to east India,oh im sorry ,the west indies and theres this other place north that you can start anew as well thats even more a steal*#$,I mean for your religous freedom,and plunder and kill each other and any indigenous inhabitants that did or did not stand in there way.meanwhile back in the fatherland, i alway thought birth was from the mother,anyway thats another subject.They discovered that they had after all these years a very very very very resourceful,and viable paradise,and yes with neighbors,who were a bit naive just south of them.since the majority of the new inhabintants of the new land had more hardships because they did'nt really no how to work the land back north without completly destroying it came up with a brilliant idea lets grab a few of these black darki$#&, i mean inhabintants and bring them back to our new land and show them our heathenisti$#&,i mean our civilized way of doing things.well theres so much more. but the two things i have the hardest time trying to figure out is why they keep saying that this land is there land the good old red white and the blue,along with the confederecy swasti#$%, i mean cross, and when they didnt even ask there neighbors to come.The other thing that would be hard to stomach is that your ancestor had very little to do with ingenuity of north america,but dont be to made you get all the enormous benefits.
Name: De'Juan (pistol@whip.com)
Time: 3/13/2002 (11:18:44)
Oh, whoops I'm sorry, I'm not supposed to say that..."it's a black thing."
what does it mean? ^
Name: John Lynch (wonderbingo@yahoo.com)
Time: 3/28/2000 (0:32:48)
Dr. Rev. MLK did more than anyone to ensure the passage of the 24th Amendment to the Constitution. The Voting rights act of 1964 also owed a lot to him.
Equal voting rights for all Americans, regardless of race, isn't something many people oppose. So for these two things, I think he deserves a holiday. As for character flaws- at least he never lied under oath.
Name: Rick Wagner (scf4rick@home.com)
Time: 3/18/99 (16:5:7)
I really enjoyed and agree with the contents of your "We Have A Dream".I hope in our life time we see it!!!!
Name: David (Withheld for fear of retribution by Clintonian thought-police.)
Time: 2/12/99 (13:37:54)
Thank you for this rant and for your site. After reading the predictable responses from these typically ignorant and arrogant leftists has reaffirmed what all of us have known to be true: This nation is no more. It bares no resemblance to the country for which both of my grandfathers fought, one of them sacrificing his left leg. Freedom, virtue, honor, and character are words that mean nothing to the cretans who make up the majority of our society. Perhaps they are words with too many syllables. I used to be angered at the thought of someone burning a flag, but if I were to see it happen now, I would put the fire out by urinating on it. I hope that when free men build a new nation for themselves in the future, they respect this one historical fact -- Every great society was built by Conservatives, and subsequently torn down by liberals.
Name: a.wilson (No email address provided)
Time: 2/11/99 (20:36:1)
Using ones constitutional rights to bear arms as a cover for spreading hate only feeds fuel to the fire that rages as gun control.When one looks for a reason to support gun control he need only to pull up a page such as this .What better argument than who needs more psycho-paramilitary computer literate and presumably educated racist running around the country.
Name: Ed Falkner (falkner@execpc.com)
Time: 2/10/99 (16:38:42)
"Daily" Outrage? The only thing outrageous here is that you fine folks haven't written anything new in about 3 1/2 weeks, and still retain the title "Daily" Outrage.
Besides, this is simply a repost (see the article).
While I generally agree with the thrust of the article (though I will admit that the religious underpinnings of
Dr. King's message bear better analysis than the political portions), I only have one bit of advice.
If you can't keep this site updated, take it down.
I know, you guys made an apologetic earlier about why you had to back off, but three weeks or better is hardly worthy of the title "Daily."
It's awful easy to talk outrage if you only have to show up every once in awhile.
Get to work.
Regards.
Ed.
Name: Mayhem (Salz19@aol.com)
Time: 2/2/99 (9:14:15)
I liked the document overall, but especialy the second to last paragraph that talks about the day when we can make fun of the black stereotype without being called a racist, I TOTALY agree with you on that point.
Name: --Anonymous-- (TSOM531@aol.com)
Time: 1/31/99 (23:43:35)
I was OUTRAGED by the comments I read on this site. Martin Luther King Jr was a wonderful man. Many people were given inspiration in a time of racism and oppression by Dr. Kings words and deeds. He is a man who needs to be admired rather than slandered. Maybe we wouldn't have MLK day if he hadn't been assasinated but that shouldn't matter. He lived his life for the good of others, particularly the black minorities and that is what does matter. As a caucasian woman, I cannot begin to fathom the racism and oppression of those times. I only know what I have read and heard about and that does not allow me to live it or feel it. I know though, that we were all supposed to be equal. We were all supposed to have the freedom of choice, religion, speech etc. If this is true, what is wrong with MLK and his efforts to make it real? I'm glad that my children can go to school and learn about Dr. King and other men like him. In a time when we had men like Malcom X "preaching" hate and groups such as the Black Panthers, I consider Martin Luther King to have been a pillar in the forming of our countrys future. We should all be greatful.
Name: Bojon (Bojon451@lycosmail.com)
Time: 1/31/99 (17:28:36)
Gee, maybe all holidays are crass, indignant wastes of time,
celebrated only for time off from work, by all the beer-swilling cretins in this moral and
intellectual wasteland that we call a country. Maybe this
article will stir up more white/black arguments than the author
could have possibly dreamed. Maybe one day an article
that starts out sounding like the author is an intelligent, human being
won't end in a way that proves the malady of ignorance is
still alive and strong in today's populace. but, I guess
thats just wishfull thinking.
-Bojon
Name: Jack Edmondson (sappo2@aol.com)
Time: 1/31/99 (12:34:22)
The fault lies not with MLK (for having a day named for him), but with those who wish to deify him. It can be debated whether MLK set out for personal fame, or not. I think he was altruistic.
Name: Jeff (No email address provided)
Time: 1/31/99 (3:5:40)
In New Hampshire, we call MLKD "Civil Rights Day." Why should Dr. King get all the fame for what hundreds and thousands have done to promote equality?
Name: Marie (damiana@ameritech.net)
Time: 1/24/99 (21:55:52)
What religion actually has New Years as a sacred
holiday, and why does no one realize the rest are only
paganist rituals, and that religion in general was
only created to incite fear and control people. Why else
would the pope or anyone else be allowed to keep altering
the rules for modern times. If it is real, the rules it began
with are the ones we should be following.
Name: anonymous (No email address provided)
Time: 1/24/99 (11:59:25)
The author deserves recognition and praise for saying what so many of us would like to. We should honor him with a day off work.
MLK Day should not be a national holiday. He deserves tribute, yes; but his name, life story and attributions in encyclopedias and history books, ect. is enough in my opinion.
Name: kiwi paul (No email address provided)
Time: 1/23/99 (5:15:43)
Coming from a multi racial country like New Zealand,I am still appalled by Americans conflicts with the the black race.
I admired Martin Luther King,and being a white New Zealander I think he was symbolic of peace for everyone.
Name: rob (poky@upstate.net)
Time: 1/22/99 (22:4:48)
amen brother!
Name: harry depina (hdepina@hotmail.com)
Time: 1/21/99 (16:32:27)
please do not send me your
mlk essay again. unless you plan on sending one
to the decendents of jefferson
and washington, lincoln or anyone else that gets a day of reverence.
why do you omly send this column out on
the reverends birthday?
Name: Steve Harrison (steveharrison@netway.at)
Time: 1/21/99 (12:39:35)
Right On !!
the real outrage is that anyone could be outraged by the above statement.
If politics is the art of the possible, then politicians are those who will try to get away with as much as possible.
Name: Mac (no need) Time: 1/21/99 (11:26:15)
Though there is a bit of truth in your observation of the inequity between Presidents Day, Veterans Day and MLKJ Day, we all need to look beyond the unfortunate misnomer of this holiday and remember the principles for which it stands. The real reason to set aside a day of remembrance called MLKJ Day is to give all of us in America and around the world an opportunity to recall civil rights, the end of oppression of a people because of race, and the movement toward loving others as we love ourselves. The day's meaning and purpose could be broadened by renaming it Human Rights Day, and we could celebrate all the diversity issues rather than just those surrounding Black Americans. King's dream was for all people, not only for Blacks, and it is a miscarriage of his life to make this special day focus only on the Black people. I would like to hear more about all people working together to make better families, schools, churches, communities, counties, states, regions and a better America. The time has come to forget color and differences as we discuss diversity. Rather, let us embrace all who will drop their personal differences and political agenda and join hands to work together. If that is what MLKJ Day can become, then let it be.
Name: Doyle (No email address provided)
Time: 1/21/99 (0:0:16)
What did MLK jr. do?
This is a fair question. MLK was a charismatic leader who brought
reason and temperment to a potentially explosive time.
At the time in which men like Malcom X were preaching death, when the
Black Panthers were talking revolution, King taught non-violence and equality.
He never hurt anyone. He stood by his convictions despite
ridicule from all sides, and never wavered.
He brought about a social revolution not by taking up arms
or spewing more hate rhetoric into the air. He did it by peaceful
protest. He filled the streets, the jails, and conveyed his message
in a way that couldn't be ignored.
He went to prison for his beliefs, and stood his ground.
For this alone he deserves recogintion and respect.
Beyond this, he was a good Christian man who was probably
the most eloquent speaker the Baptists have ever produced.
He inspired us to dream of a brighter future for our children,
and motivated us to strive to make it a reality.
He was probably one of the only civil rights leaders that didn't
teach "black power" or "the white man is evil."
We know these men too often. Malcolm X, Louis Farakhan, Al Sharpton; these men are
hate mongers no better than the forces they claim to fight.
But Martin Luther King Jr. was different. He taught equality for all
and love for our fellow man.
I to dream of a world in which a man is not judged by the
color of his skin, or where his ancestors came from, but by
the content of his character.
If he has no character, then we can freely judge him to be an SOB
But when he demonstrates countless times a conviction
to the high ideals he preaches, then he is a man that has
earned our respect. I would honor the Rev. King even if he
hadn't been assassinated. He was a good man who will sorely
be missed.
The world would be a far better place if it had more men of his
passion, drive, and conviction.
Name: Bill (No email address provided)
Time: 1/20/99 (22:32:47)
I am not at all outraged about Mr. King having a holiday. I like holidays. Someone please post for me a short description of what he actually did. It's kind of the opposite of the impeachment trial, the congress is looking for what Mr. Clinton did wrong, and I want to know what Mr. King did right. Was he a Senator or something?
Name: Travis Jackson (jjack@midusa.net)
Time: 1/20/99 (18:22:45)
sorry, not outrage about celebrating MLK birthday. I think it is a good idea. I had to work on King"s birthday, but life goes on and I am happy for those who had it off
Name: Jackie (JackieFrys@aol.com) Time: 1/20/99 (15:23:55)
Reading all the remarks here clearly states WHAT DR. KING WAS TRYING TO GET RID OF!!! Nobody is perfect..look at all the wrong and harm that other races have done..not just blacks..But ALL people...have sinned. WHY NOT EMBRACE WHAT DR. KING STOOD FOR instead of noticing faults. And for those to honor James Earl Ray, I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS, with thoughts like that HOW CAN THIS COUNTRY GO ON? Bad part about it, with all THIS HATE ON THIS PAGE, YOU ALL STILL THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE GOD! NOT!!!!!
Name: emily (none please) Time: 1/20/99 (15:6:28)
I do not wish to give my address for fear of the KKK finding me. I am shocked at the views that have been expressed here. Slavery and Racism is kept alive by these people in this great country. What I mean by these people? The ones who have made hate comments against MLK. You have forgotten that he said unity for all people. The white kids today have so much hate in them because they are being taught to hate by their parents. Too young to have been around during the early civil rights movement only means that these hate teachings have been passed down. Scarey part of the whole forum is, the people making the hate comments are our everyday citizens, politicians, lawyers, doctors, etc...Hard to see just who wears the white hoods these days. More of you are KKK hearted than you will admit...too bad. I am using my friends e-mail to respond, but I sure hope she cancels the soure that sent this garbage to her. Thats pretty bad when they think everybody wants to read and not knowing WHAT RACE they are, and not caring how they feel about it...just tossing in everybody's mailboxes. What a shame. But I can't get over the harsh words and the meaness that is expressed over the Dr. King Holiday. Racism will never end because it has too many people still backing it up.
Name: Subtle Observer (maximax@worldnet.att.net)
Time: 1/20/99 (13:3:13)
I feel that if Dr. King had been allowed to live, even though he would come to a natural death later, we would have no MLK Day to observe. He would have sure self-destructed or been destroyed by one of his own who just couldn't stand to see him gloat in the glory he had attained. Instead of MLK Day, June-teenth (June 19) would be a considerably more appropriate day to observe. The day is coming when envious, glutonous, power-hungry blacks will use their political clout to get a day named for themselves. Then, the frivolity of it all will become obvious. Until then, just enjoy your free day from work or school!
Name: Lynn Mobley (No email address provided) Time: 1/20/99 (1:6:25)
GET A LIFE!!!! This is still
America. I'm from the south and never realized how many narrow-minded, uninformed people there are. If you don't like the fact that there is an MLK day, DON'T CELEBRATE! I don't celebrate most holidays b/c I choose not to. Dr. King was a man who believed in choices and equality. What you believe in is your choice. Don't perpetuate hate.
Name: stretch (No email address provided)
Time: 1/19/99 (23:34:48)
AS A PUBLIC SERVANT AND RETIREE OF THE MILITARY I CAN APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR AND EXISTENCE OF A DAY TO HONOR CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS. THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNMENT DICTATES THAT STATES MUST COMPLY AND THE WEAK KNEED SPINELESS POLITICIANS GIVE IN TO THE PRESSURE MAKES ME ILL. AS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORSHIP AND IDOLIZE DR. KING THAT IS THEIR CHOICE AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT MUST ANSWER TO GOD ON JUDGEMENT DAY FOR HAVING PLACED A MORTAL MAN ABOVE HIS COMMANDMENTS. FOR ALL THOSE WHO WOULD CLASSIFY ME AS A FACIST, RACIST OR RIGHTWINGER, GROW UP THIS IS A COUNTRY OF FREE SPEECH IF IT WASN'T YOU WOULD NOT BE CELEBRATING MLK DAY.....
Name: Homer Simpson (homer@doe.com)
Time: 1/19/99 (22:6:9)
Right on the money! the only thing you left out was that
MLK was paid to cause a civil war so the commies could
attack and defeat the US. The only thing I like my ex father in law
for is the fact that he helped shoot the man. (Yes he was
in the military. Special Forces, assigned to save the
union from that evil commie.) Sometimes the gov actually does
a good thing.
Name: DENNIS PAVUSEK (DPAVUSEK@USA.NET)
Time: 1/19/99 (19:13:37)
IT'S GREAT, Dr. King prevented another Civil War in this nation. We need more with his morals, too bad our president doesn't have the moral fiber of Dr King.
Name: Victoria (No email address provided)
Time: 1/19/99 (17:4:8)
ON COURAGE
how much courage do you think it takes to sit in relative comfort at the computer in your home or office and issue a malicious diatribe against a slain man?
how much courage do you think it takes to take to assemble the allegations, truths, half-truths, foibles, imperfections, inconsistencies, dirty laundry, and dishonorable acts about said individual and hold them up before the light for us -- sitting in relative comfort in front of our computers ... 30 years later -- to cast judgment upon?
how much courage do you think it takes to have a spirited discussion about this slain individual in a forum in which, although our political opinions may differ, we are alike enough -- educationally, socioeconomically, etc., -- to all be afforded the luxury to 1) own or have access to a computer, 2) have the time to debate the merits of the slain man's character and the pros and cons of honoring his memory?
how much courage do you think it takes to be a member of a marginalized, ostracized group -- a black man -- in 1940s-1960s America helping to spearhead a campaign against discrimination so that I may enjoy, among a myriad of other luxuries, to be able to 30 years later openly, and without fear, debate the significance of his contributions with people of other races (read: white), some of whom are more powerful, influential and possibly better educated than I?
I hope that one day if I'm called upon to summon all my inner strength and fight for a cause I believe in, a cause that is just, that all my personal flaws won't be fodder for a group of people 30-40 years down the road to malign my character. MLK was not a saint, by anyone's definition, and he should not be deified .... but without reservation I celebrate his contribution, and the contributions of all those flawed, and yes, courageous people who fought with him. Without question, my life today is better for his courage. Guess what? Yours is, too.
Name: charles h burns (No email address provided)
Time: 1/19/99 (16:47:6)
I love Martin Luther King day. Hey, what can I say I'm a fed govt employee and it's a free day off!!!
Name: --Anonymous-- (lasercane@donet.com)
Time: 1/19/99 (10:3:20)
Loved the Outrage! We both read it, and were surprised that we had
said nearly the same thing just a few hours earlier.
I've always had to stand back and say WHAT THE?? When I know that
black people have fought for the right to be included, and now they want to be
separate. I don't get it.
I was raised by two parents that taught us that we are all children of God, no matter
what race or creed. I am 52 years old, and never knew what RACISM was
until I worked in a hospital, and I was the minority, and I am white. The RACISM that was
directed at the white nurses by the blacks was eye-opening! We were called "honkies" and "crackers"
and laughed at about the food we ate. If the white nurses expressed interest in
anything the black nurses had/wore/did etc., we were told
"It's a black thing, and you can't do it/belong to it/wear it/say it." WHAT THE?
Thank you for the great column.
As the black people say...................
YOU GO....GIRL.....MAN.......whatever......
Oh, whoops I'm sorry, I'm not supposed to say that..."it's a black thing."
Rage Back!