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Readers Rage back!

September 13, 1998
WHO'S THE WORST?

Readers Rage Back!

A day in the life of our postmaster

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Name: JIM (No email address provided) Time: 2/7/2002 (16:24:40)

Bill's problem is he should have backed that ass up longer than he did. IF he would have kept it up till the end of his term everything would have been better when he was in office.

Name: Paul (phwirth@idt.net) Time: 9/13/98 (22:1:11)

"Everybody knows that I have tougher ethics rules than any previous President."
(Bill Clinton)

TOO BAD THESE DEATH PEOPLE CAN NO LONGER VOTE:

THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT - Strange Deaths Surround the Presidency

The following is a partial list of a large number of persons who have recently met their demise in suspicious circumstances who appear to have some connection to the Clintons. Although many listeners suggested he should be on the list, the list does NOT include William Colby.

THE MOST RECENT

Mary Mahoney - White House Intern
died 7/97 - An attractive 25 year old woman, Mary was a former White House Intern for Bill Clinton working as the Assistant Manager at a Starbuck's Coffee shop in Georgetown. In the pre-trial publicity surrounding Paula Jones lawsuit, and mere days after Newsweek's Mike Isikoff had dropped hints that a "former White House staffer" was about to go public with her story of sexual harassement at 1600 Pennsylvania, gunmen entered the Starbuck's while the crew was cleaning up after closing. Mary's two associates were taken to a room and shot. Mary herself had five bullets in her. No money was taken. As of this writing, Mike Isikoff's "former White House staffer" has never appeared.

THE MOST FAMOUS

Vincent Foster - White House Counsel
died - 7/21/93 Found dead in Ft. Marcy Park in Washington, DC, of a supposed suicide by gunshot. A suicide note was supposedly found a few days later, torn into several pieces, in his briefcase, after his office had been entered by WhiteHouse staff and materials removed. The gun which he supposedly used to kill himself was reported to be still in his hand, but the person who first found the body reports that there was no gun at that time. Many irregularities surround the deathand the investigation of it. - Foster was also from Hope, Ark., like Clinton, and also worked for the Rose Law firm. Foster had intimate knowledge of the Clintons' personal finances. Foster was involved in an investigation of their finances, and reportedly made a phone call to Hillary Clinton, in Little Rock, just hours before his death.

DEAD BODYGUARDS -

Maj. Gen. William Robertson - Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Europe
Col William Densberger - V Corps Chief of Operations and Plans
Col. Robert Kelly - V Corps Chief of Intelligence
Spec. Gary Rhodes - Crew Chief
ALL died: 2/23/93 - All were killed when their helicopter crashed in Weisbaden, Germany. No cause was ever determined. - V Corps figured prominently in the US Bosnia-Serbia peacekeeping operations, along with the carrier Roosevelt. These men, and 8 others associated with Clinton's visit to the Roosevelt all died within 4 months of each other.

Steve Willis - Clinton bodyguard
Robert Williams - Clinton bodyguard
Conway LeBleu - Clinton bodyguard
Todd McKeehan - Clinton bodyguard
died: 2/28/93 - "executed" by gunfire in the Waco, Texas assault on the Branch Davidians. - All four were examined by a "private doctor" and died from nearly identical wounds to the left temple, so-called execution style. According to Linda Thompson, videotapes and other evidence indicates that none died from guns fired by Branch Davidians.

Five Navy aviators - Clinton bodyguards/escorts
(names not determined) died: 3/26/93 - all died in a crash of an E-2C Hawkeye in Italy. The crash occurred shortly after the plane was "waved off" from a landing attempt on the Carrier Roosevelt, due to a "foul deck". - All five men had been Clinton's escorts during Clinton's visit to the Roosevelt 2 weeks prior. Three other men, who had flown Clinton to the Roosevelt for that visit also died later in a helicopter crash.

Staff Sgt. Brian Haney - Clinton bodyguard
Marine Sgt. Tim Sabel - Clinton bodyguard
Maj. William Barkley - Clinton bodyguard
Capt. Scott Reynolds - Clinton bodyguard
ALL died: 5/19/93 - All four men died when their helicopter crashed in the woods near Quantico, Va. - Reporters were barred from the site, and the head of the fire department responding to the crash described it by saying, "Security was tight," with "lots of Marines with guns." A videotape made by a firefighter was seized by the Marines. All four men had escorted Clinton on his flight to the carrier Roosevelt shortly before their deaths.

DEAD FUNDRAISERS

C. Victor Raiser II - National Finance Co-Chairman, Clinton for President Campaign
Montgomery Raiser - Son of C. Victor Raiser II
died: 7/30/92 - Both men died in a private plane crash in Alaska, en route to a fishing expedition. No cause was ever determined. Five others not connected to Clinton died with them. - DeeDee Meyers described Raiser as a "major player" in the Clinton organization. Victor raiser was also chairman of Mobile Telecomm Technologies Corp., whose subsidiary, SkyTel Corp. is an international paging company used by federal police agencies such as the FBI.

Paul Tully - Democratic National Committee Political Director
died: 9/24/92 - Found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock Arkansas of "unknown causes." No autopsy allowed. - Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor. Tully authored several key strategies for Clinton and the party.

Ed Willey - Real Estate Attorney, Clinton Fund Raisor
died: 11/30/93 - Died of gunshot to the head. Body found in deep woods in Virginia. Ruled a suicide, no note was found, nor was any motive identified. - Intimately involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser.
died: ??? - Killed when his plane exploded. Cause unknown.

DEAD WITNESSES

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's Guberntorial security team in Little Rock.
died: 9/26/93 - Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. - His family reported that shortly before his death, they were being followed by unknown persons, and their home had been broken into. Parks had been compiling a dossier on Clinton's illicit activities. The dossier was stolen.

James Bunch -Influential Texan
died: ??? - Died from a gunshot suicide, similar to Vince Foster. - Was discovered to have a "little black book" containing the names of many influential persons in Texas and Arkansas who visited certain prostitutes.

John Wilson - Former Washington DC Council member
died: 5/18/93 - Found dead from an apparent hanging suicide - Suicide appears suspicious due to an unusual number of reports made to the media concerning his "depression". Was reported, but not proven, to have ties to the Whitewater affair.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson died: 6/94 - allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself at the gravesite of his fiancee - Officer Shelton was the fiancee of Kathy Ferguson, who was the ex-wife of Trooper Danny Ferguson. Kathy Ferguson also committed "suicide" 6/94 when she shot herself in her living room. Oddly, next to the body were her packed bags, as if she was expecting to be going somewhere. Danny Ferguson is a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in Paula Corbin Jones's sexual harassment suit. His ex-wife was reported as a corroborating witness for Ms. Jones.

Kathy Furguson - Ex-wife of Trooper Danny Furguson
died: circa 5/94 - Died of a supposed gunshot suicide in her living room. There was a suicide note found by the body. However, friends were surprised at having noticed nothing wrong previously. And even more curious, found nearby were several packed suitcases, as if she expected she was going somewhere. She was the former wife (since changed her name) of Trooper Danny Ferguson, who is the Arkansas State Trooper alleged to have escorted Paula Corbin Jones to the hotel room for her alleged episode of sexual harrassment by then Governor Clinton. Ferguson's wife was reported as a possible corroborating witness for Ms. Jones.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney representing Mr. Lassater in a case concerning alleged financial misconduct.
died: circa 5/94 - Died in an alleged suicide by jumping out of a window of a multi-story building. - Mr. Lassater was a close associate of Gov. Clinton, and was later indicted on drug related charges, among other things, AND was pardoned by Clinton.

Dr. Ronald Rogers - Dentist from Arkanasas
Killed in plane crash as he was on his way to an interview with a "London Sunday Telegraph" reporter to reveal some Clinton dirt.

Stanley Huggins - Partner in Memphis law firm
investigating Madison Guaranty. His 300 page report has never been released.

Florence Martin - Accountant subcontracting to CIA
related to the Barry Seal case. Dead of three gunshot wounds to the head.

Jim Wilhite
Wilhite was an associate of Mack McClarty's former firm. Wilhite died in a skiing accident on December 21, 1992.

DEAD WOMEN

Suzanne Coleman
Had affair with Clinton when he was attorney general. Died of "suicide" with gunshot wound to the back of her head. No autopsy performed. Was pregnant at time of her death. Some say

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf
died: 12/9/92 - Died in a one-car accident with no known witnesses. Her body was thrown 33 feet from the car. A very attractive women, Paula traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her death.

DEAD INVESTIGATORS

Paul Wilcher - Washington attorney investigating government corruption
died: 6/22/93 - Found dead on a toilet in his Washington apartment. No cause of death was ever determined. - At the time of his death, he was investigating connections between the "October surprise" during the 1980 federal election campaign and drug and gun-running out of Mena, Arkansas, as well as the BATF assault on the Waco, Texas Branch Davidians. Was planning on producing a television documentary on his findings. He had delivered a 99-page affidavit to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - RTC investigator
Mysteriously fell to his death from an apartment balcony. The same apartment which was alleged to have been a secret getaway which oster may have visited.

DEAD COMMERCE DEPARTMENT DEATHS

Ron Brown - Former Chairman, DNC; Commerce Secretary
died: 5/3/96 - Ron Brown died along with 39 other people when the T-43 (a converted 737 used by the Air Force) carrying the group on a trip to Bosnia crashed while approaching the Dubrovnik airport. On the verge of being indicted and having stated publicly his willingness to make a deal with prosecutors, Ron Brown's death brought to an end the investigations into the Commerce Department. (NOTE: Also belongs under dead fundraisers)

Barbera Wise - Commerce Department Staffer
died: 11/29/96 - As the scandals continued to swirl around the Commerce Department, and most of all about John Huang, one of Huang's associates, Barbera Wise, was found dead in her locked office at the Department of Commerce, partially nude and covered with bruises. No cause of death has ever been announced. Oddly enough, following the discovery of her body, Bill Clinton made an unscheduled return to the White House from Camp David, claiming he needed a book of poetry in order to complete his inauguration speech.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce for International Economic Policy.
died: UNK - Following Ron Brown's death, John Huang was placed on a Commerce Department contract that allowed him to retain his security clearence by Charles Meissner. Shortly thereafter, Charles Meissner died in the crash of a small plane.

THE HENRY IVES DEATHS

Kevin Ives & Don Henry
Initial cause of death was reported to be the result of falling asleep on a railroad track in Arkansas on August 23, 1987. This ruling was reported by the State medical examiner Fahmy Malak. Later it was determined that Kevin died from a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks. Don had been stabbed in the back. Rumors indicate that they might have stumbled upon a Mena drug operation.

Keith Koney
Keith had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. Died in a motorcycle accident in July 1988 with unconfirmed reports of a high speed car chase.

Keith McKaskle
McKaskle has information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He was stabbed to death in November 1988.

Gregory Collins
Greg had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He died from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes
He had information on the deaths of Ives, Henry & McKaskle. His burned body was found in a trash dump in April 1989. He died of a gunshot wound to the head and there was some body mutilation, leading to the probably speculation that he was tortured prior to being killed.

James Milam
Milam had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was decapitated. The state Medical examiner, Fahmy Malak, initially ruled death due to natural causes.

Richard Winters
Winters was a suspect in the deaths of Ives & Henry. He was killed in a "robbery" in July 1989 which was subsequently proven to be a setup.

Jordan Kettleson
Kettleson had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup in June 1990.

MISC DEATHS

Stanley Heard - Chairman, National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee

Steve Dickson - Counsel to Mr. Heard
died: 9/10/93 - Both died in a plane crash outside Dulles airport, after their aircraft, rented after Heard's personal craft developed troubles, crashed while attempting an emergency landing after reporting a fire on board. - Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, also personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather, and brother.

Jim Wilhite - Vice Chairman, Arkla, Inc.
died: 12/21/92 - Died in a one-person skiing accident. - Wilhite had extensive ties with Clinton and Mack McLarty, with whom he visited by telephone just hours before his death.

Wounded or attempted murder:

Gary Johnson
Not dead, but beaten near death and left for dead. Had videotapes of Clinton breaking into Gennifer Flowers' apartment. His tapes were taken.

Dennis Patrick
Court clerk. Had millions of dollars laundered through his account at Lasater & Co without his knowledge. Four attempts on his life.

L.J. Davis
Reporter investigating Clinton scandals. Attacked at his hotel room in Little Rock. His notes were stolen.

Larry Nichols
Former official at ADFA and author of "The Clinton Chronicles." The man who broke many of the Clinton scandal stories. Several attempts on his life.

© 1996 by KSFO
http://pages.prodigy.com/geoffc/ gunlinks.htm

Name: MOM (momof44@aol.com) Time: 9/13/98 (14:40:18)
The President lied under oath, that is perjury, if we lied under oath we would spend 5 years in prision. What will congress do to him?? Congress better do the right thing by impeaching him and putting him in prision. Time to pay for playing Billy boy........ Hope it was good sex cause it cost you a lot and cost us 40 million dollars. THATS SOME EXPENSIVE SEX!

Name: Joe Zweben (jmdancers@webtv.net) Time: 9/13/98 (12:24:17)
We think the president should resign right now==to head off the sordid details which will emerge from an impeachment.

Name: Ken Miller (No email address provided) Time: 9/13/98 (12:23:43)

I am outraged at the fat complancent american people who are be led to slaughter by the current occupant of the whitehouse.

Name: Kim Wilson (wilsonk@pilot.msu.edu) Time: 9/13/98 (12:22:20)

Clinton is THE worst but HIS adoring public comes in a very close second, right ahead of the legal shills like Kendall. All the rest are light years behind. What a national travesty....

Name: Rankin! (freewillie@geocities.com) Time: 9/13/98 (12:20:38)

Clinton is a sleaze-ball. Hillary is a power-slut. Lewinsky? Well there's no accounting sexual tastes. Starr nailed it. If his report is "too detailed" it is because Slick Willie lied in January. There's nothing wrong with sex. But perjury and obstruction of justice are important. Clinton has sullied the Office of the President.

Name: don irwin (dji72614@webtv.net) Time: 9/13/98 (12:20:32)
Thanx for your very good summary of the whole Clinton-Starr mess. To say that nobody in the arna has clean hands is an understatement - nobody has clean pants or minds either!

Name: Chuck King (tojoco@digitalexp.com) Time: 9/13/98 (12:16:43)

Slick Willie & Sleazey Lewinski
The man is in one room yelling & whinning with "Sleazy" about her not getting enough attention from him while he has to; run this country, keep his hand in other countries affairs, have a family, baby sit congress, think up lies to cover his butt, and then he has to go into the next room and dicuss issues with the Mexican President. And she is a "gold digger" from the word go.

Name: K. W. Jones (kjdiver@mcn.org) Time: 9/13/98 (12:9:38)

I've enjoyed a number of your postings but you have made me unsubscribe with your 9-13-98 bit. Your cynical approach to our fearless leader's perjury under oath, obstruction, witness tampering and defiling the symbol of our democracy, the Oval Office. The Southern Baptists and all Christians forgive the sinner, but there is still the penalty under our system. Frankly, your viewpoint attacking everyone concerned made me angry.

Name: Cristy McCallister (me0688@iname.com) Time: 9/13/98 (12:1:59)

Unfortunatly you are right. I think in April instead of paying taxes for such garbage we should all spend the money for flea collars. I kind of like the idea of the island thing, BUT someone will get slapped for polluting the environment!! Toxic dumping is not allowed!!!!

Name: Bill Hartley (toyguy5538@aol.com) Time: 9/13/98 (12:0:37)

I'm so tired of hearing about Clinton's sex life. I think he should reimburse the taxpayers the $47M we spent because he lied initially, and we can all get on with our lives.

Name: Carol Hoffman (cahoff@teleport.com) Time: 9/13/98 (11:56:14)

Bill clinton is a no-good, do-nothing, so-called "leader" who is the scuzziest president to ever occupy the White House.

Name: John Austin (holywood@ez2.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:55:23)

Clinton ... going away.
Clinton is the most unthical, immoral, lying, no good sob that ever sat in the Oval Office. This is far, far worse than "Watergate" because there is a pattern of lies all the way back to Arkansas. That wife of his is also the worst first lady ever to sit the White House. Also, It is obvious that Vince Foster must have been murdered and his body moved to the Park. As a reporter, I never saw a body, suicide or otherwise, that did not have blood surrounding the body - unles it was poison.

Clinton cannot now effectively lead this country - and the free world - with all this exposure in the Starr Report as to his carnal activities. As a journalist - international - I see the Eruopean and far eastern newspapers and what they are saying about him.
John Austin
Hollywood Inside Syndicate
www.ez2.net/hollywood

Name: RALIEGH S.WALTER (raswa@usa.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:54:54)
Leave Clinton alone, Monica is no saint, she is a conniving little tramp who got just what she asked. Ken Starr should be ashamed of himself. Clinton is no less human than anyone else and to err is human "HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE." These people who are harassing the President are just vex and jealous that they could no get "a piece"of the thing themselves.

Name: Chris (PBcool@indy.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:48:20)

The president is the one that I'm appaled with. I mean if it weren't for his lying for seven month's then Ken Starr would have probably saved us taxpayers a couple Million dollars. He's not the only one though, I am also disgusted with the Public, which I am apart of, that keeps taking Clinton back with open arms. Our society needs to get our morals in line. Must people would probably say, if this case hadn't been drug out for four years, Impeach the Hell out Clinton, that horn dog. And if not that then Clinton should step down. Save himself from any further embarrasment. I gurantee you that Slick Willy won't do either one until he is forced by the law of land, or public opinion. This is where all of this money is getting wrapped up. It's from Bill not being honest, and dragging everything out. That is what I think his plan was to do. Make the American People so tired of the whole matter and then have Bill say," I'm tired of this too, and how about we just put this all below us now and get down to buisness." That's what I think.

Name: Sharon (spd1776@webtv.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:40:18)
Clinton, of course. If it were not for his actions, there would be no smut publicized. He is morally bankrupt, a betrayer to females and to blacks. He has used them, his behind them and defiled them at every chance he had. Betty Curry is a prime example. Who will pay Betty Curry's legal coss she incurred.

It is amazing to me that people would attack Kenneth Starr. He didn't violate his marriage vows. He didn't ie to the public. He didn't use his power and influence to satisfy his deviant sexual appetite. Ken Starr's investigation is not yet over, so let's not presume he came up empty in Watergate, filegate and travelgate. The beat goes on. Additionally, how much did it cost the American taxpayer from January to August while Clinton was denying any wrongdoing. Clinton is a pathological liar and unfit to serve our nation in any capacity. Starr is the opposite of Clinton in every way. Who would you rather your daughter work for - Clinton or Starr? Starr is a thoroughly good man - but we're all used to seeing those who wallow in muck and mire delight in slinging their own filth at those who are clean and decent.

Another vote for worst would be Carvill. He advised Clinton against proferring a simple, and private, apology to Paula Jones. She never wanted money. She just wanted an apology that she deserved. She turned down $750,000, not because it wasn't enough, but because it didn't include an apology. Carvill's caveman hard ball tactics led the investigation to right where it is now!


Name: pamela hess (hess1@bellsouth.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:38:1)

Who cares! As far as I am concerned Monica Lewinsky is a tramp. She was a little Miss nobody who has the morals of an alley cat. What woman keeps an under garment or dress with seamen on it? She like many other women is under the illusion that a married man is going to give up his family for her. HaHa! She is either stupid or was used to set up President Clinton by other political factions. So she literally has been screwed royally! What goes on in private between two consenting adults, should be just that. Private! As far as I can see his affair has not affected his ability to do his job. Many other presidents have had affairs, and Garfield fathered an illigatimate child while in office. Were they forced to resign or threatened with impeachment? No!

Name: Joe Sager (jsager@bigfoot.com) Time: 9/13/98 (11:36:1)

Who said that?
"Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, time and time again, and betrayed their trust. Since he has admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out his term, the only possible solution is for the president to save some dignity and resign."

From the Arkansas 12th Congressional District Hopeful: Mr. William Jefferson Clinton, during the 1974 Nixon investigations.

Name: jakeorama (whocares.com) Time: 9/13/98 (11:33:19)

Slick Willy is the cause of this mess. He is one big lier. What about the other women, the people who are dead. This guy is a real classic!

Name: sandra (No email address provided) Time: 9/13/98 (11:19:47)

This entire 'affair' had no business going public in the first place. Two consenting adults - Bill HAD to lie - OK, Bill made ONE mistake...to have a fling with such a young woman. The media had a field day...made a fortune...profited enormously from the scandal they helped create and maintain.

Name: --Anonymous-- (pireland@cheta.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:13:56)

Clinton is the worst without question.Without his transgressions none of the others would enter the picture.

Name: Bruce B Brown (brucebbrown@hotmail.com) Time: 9/13/98 (11:11:55)

Re "of those who have done the most to degrade the standard of American political debate" the obvious winner is the American news media, aka "all Monica all the time" (and before that Gennifer, Paula et al). The private, consensual sex life of a president, prime minister, or any other political figure -- as with any other citizen -- is nobody's(!) business unless criminal -- not *immoral(?)* conduct is charged. And when such charges are unproven -- or thrown out of court -- just move on.

Name: Lon F. Alexander, M.D. (braneman@pop.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:6:48)

I condemn and decry most everyone on the list, but what is most alarming is the "tabloid-ization" of our daily lives by the Omnipotent Media. It seemed to hit a fevered pitch with OJ: where will many of the "expose" shows be when there is really domestic tranquility? And of course, we must all criticize ourselves for being a party to it.

Name: Lou Guida (lguida@isle.net) Time: 9/13/98 (11:4:31)

Bravo on your latest Outrage, "Who's The Worst". Couldn't agree more with the point it makes. I'm going to forward it to all my friends. The following is a copy of the email I submitted to KCAL (Channel 9 LA) Soundwaves - of course, they chose not to post it for others to read, probably for fear of offending the voting public whom I hold responsible for this entire mess, which embarrasses all Americans before all the nations on Earth.

Clinton should not be in the office of President, nor should he ever have been there in the first place; he is now and always has been unift for the Presidency. I do not think he should be impeached nor forced to resign, however. Instead, I believe he should remain in office, a disgraced, lame duck, as a grim reminder to all those among our electorate who in 1992 voted for him and Ross Perot and who helped place him in this, the highest office, of our great country.

It was all too obvious, at least to me and the many others who gave our vote to President George Bush, during Clinton's first campaign for the Presidency, there were serious questions raised regarding his integrity and honesty; those questions have been graphically answered today, resulting in an entire nation and its people being embarrassed before the rest of the world. Recalling that "family values" was one of the larger issues during the 1992 Presidential campaign, Clinton has made a mockery of that concept with his disgusting conduct and behavior, both before and after he took office.

As I sat and watched the election returns roll in on that grim evening in November 1992, it was with utter disbelief and great despair that I observed the people of this country place this man in the office of President, particularly in view of the integrity, honor, and accomplishments of President George Bush. I further couldn't believe they did it for a second time in 1996. It is extremely difficult for me to attach "President" with Clinton, but now, I say leave him office to serve up a lesson to those responsible for placing him there in the first place, they have gotten what they deserve. Clinton is a disgrace and all those who helped elect him to the office of President (twice!) share in his disgrace. Prolong this to the completion of his term and perhaps our people will evaluate the candidates better and vote more responsibly the next time around.

Lou G.


Name: Ron Clothier (rnclothier@aol.com) Time: 9/13/98 (11:2:22)

I already knew Clinton is a lying, crooked, draft dodging, cowardly, immoral scumbag. I don't know that Gore would be much better.

Name: Donna D (donnad@bigfoot.com) Time: 9/13/98 (11:1:26)

I vote for #1, without him, none of this would have ever taken place. He has stooped lower than all of them put together. The gull of him, thinking he's above the law that he can do whatever he pleases in OUR white house. He was stupid to think he could get away with it.

Name: John H. Luttrell (luttrell@ix.netcom.com) Time: 9/13/98 (11:0:43)

The most accurate assessment of the cast of characters I have seen to date. This mess is really scary when you use your scapel to open the infection to the light of day. Thanks!

Name: Michael Cooley (No email address provided) Time: 9/13/98 (11:0:36)

My vote goes to all of the above. Congratulations, America. Thanks to contributions from all of the above nominees, we have only succeeded in establishing ourselves as the laughing stock of the world. How could we have let ourselves sink to such a level of pure pettiness? Our nation has finally aspired to follow in the footsteps of the new hero for the common man, "Jerry Springer", and the entire nation will be featured on the next "Jerry Springer Show" It is truly regrettable that as a nation, we harbor so much unhappiness and self loathing that we engage in such carnivals of hypocrisy and judgement. It's times like these that I wonder how great it is to be an American. Let's all GET A LIFE!

Name: anonymous (not disclosed) Time: 9/13/98 (10:56:32)

I agree - send them all to an island to feed off each other!

Name: Grant Phillips (grantp@datawest.net) Time: 9/13/98 (10:55:54)

We got rid of Lt. Kelly Flinn (and rightly so, I think) because she lied to an Air Force investigating officer about an affair she was having with a married enlisted man, then disobeyed orders to stay away from him. She was in charge of flying a nuclear-armed B52, and it was decided that someone who showed such bad judgment could not be allowed control of nuclear weapons. Need I say more? My vote for most shameful player goes to William Jefferson Clinton, hands down.

Name: PETER I.PATTERSON (No email address provided) Time: 9/13/98 (10:48:5)
I am not an American but all around the world we have been bombarbed with this circus in highest level of hypocrisy that Ihave ever seesn or read of anywhere. What is wrong with America? Clinton is the President and he should not have been put throuhgh this non-sense. What you at OUTRAGE must remember he is America's choice, not only once, but twice.

I see no "halo" or" pair of white wings" hanging behind his back.

I believe Ken Starr aka"C'ant Start' feeds on viagra and is just jealous of Clinton. The agony of his incapability shows on his face every time he appears on T.V.

My only problem with Clinton is that he refused to stand by his "guns" as he had been doing with his bimbos, I believe his advisers played him for a sucker, and they should be .........(you know what). I cast my vote for K'ant Star or Start as the most outrageous and despicable creature in this whole international hypocritical circus played out by the "highest " officials in U.S. office.


Name: Dawn (dawn@tx3.com) Time: 9/13/98 (10:41:9)

You're so right D.O.! It's hard to pick one "worst" in the Starr ordeal when there are so many sleezy and outrageous contenders. Their utter stupidity brings Bill & Monica in tied for third. Congress ranks second in my book. And number one? Another tie: the religious leaders and the american people. How much of this crap are the american people going to swallow from the religious right? (Pardon the pun.) Politics is not - and never should be - a forum for expressing religious values ... whether it's cloaked in the guise of " family values" or not. There are a great many non-Christians in this country - myself included - that shudder at the notion that the american people are ushering the religious right into political office. Shame on you - religious leaders and the gullible american people who follow you - for trying to make this country over into what our forefathers sought to escape 200 years ago!

Name: Daniel Pouzzner (douznews@kill-9.ai.mit.edu) Time: 9/13/98 (10:39:10)

In 1992, I didn't vote. In 1996 I voted for Harry Browne. On August 2, 1997, I posted an article to Usenet and Bill Clinton's debauchery wasn't even mentioned. In 1998, I have assembled a vast collection of articles and documents exposing a world government conspiracy, with Bill Clinton as one of its many egregious point men. America has been taken for a ride, and I wonder when and how it will get off.

My vote for the worst of the lot is Bill Clinton, followed closely by an American public that cares more about the greenness of their lawns and mutual funds than about virtue, freedom, and the other ideals pursued by America's founding fathers.

Name: Bob (bmculley@webtv.net) Time: 9/13/98 (10:38:39)
Monica gets my vote!!!!!! Hillary runs a close second!! Maybe after Bill leaves office (hopefully in the near future) these two "Ladies" can get to be good friends...... or maybe even LOVERS!!!!

Name: Gypsy (No email address provided) Time: 9/13/98 (10:35:3)
I vote for Clinton. Not only has he turned us into laughingstocks once again, but the other charges are still very much under investigation. Starr just hasn't finished those reports yet. He said they will be presented soon. I see Starr as an unsung American hero. He may have spent millions of dollars over a 4 year period, but the man did NOT stop, and don't think he wasn't pressured to. Clinton on the other hand has seated the most felonious cabinet in the history of our country, has undermined the Constitution of the United States, and has said publically that the bill of rights was a radical solution to radical times, but now personal freedom is causing problems, and it needs to be amended! I'm sorry, I'm neither Democrat or Republican, I'm a Libertarian, and not only do I see impeachable offenses, but I see offenses that would, and should put Beelzebubba in prison for the rest of his life. And to tell you the truth, if this is ALL Mr. Starr can get, we ought to take it and be grateful. I don't necessarily hold with everyone having to read the details, but it was not Kenneth Starr that put it on the web for all to see.

Clinton has been up to his eyebrows in scandal from the beginning. But I'm not worried, the idiot took his oath under a void of course moon. Other notable void of course moon presidents, Nixon, Kennedy, and Lincoln. Besides, as to the money Starr has spent, what's that compared to the perhaps billions that Clinton has raped this country for?


Name: Fred E Robinson Jr (frederobinsonjr@webtv.net) Time: 9/13/98 (10:30:56)
It seems you overlooked the most outrageous of them all,it is my fellow Native English Speaking Black Americans, who have been asked their opinion in many media forums (and they sided with Bill), and Maxine Watters and the CBC, Congressional Black Caucus.

Here we have a bunch of socalled Black leaders, willing to degrade themselves, as well as their constituents back home, in hopes that a law breaker overcomes his stupididy, that they then may have a better or highter place in the worlds ultimate power circle, to continue to seek their own glory.

And concerning Brother Vernon Jordan, Starr reports (gifts) states that Monica confided in 11 but, it states Vernon told her to get rid of the draft copies of letters and note, she had to confide in him in order for him say this, and he lied and will most likely get some bar time, if he don't do the smart thing and sell the stupid sucker out!!


Name: Warren Mason (wemason@iname.com) Time: 9/13/98 (10:29:47)

My vote goes to the #1 slime bag, degenerate, bold faced lier in the White House "President Booty"

Name: Julie (No email address provided) Time: 9/13/98 (10:29:3)

My vote goes to Monica Screwinsky. Why hunt the man down like she did when the sex wasn't that good? He dumps her over and over again and she screams like a baby so she can give him some gifts and a BJ? The tramp needs to do her laundry, too. Monica, you need to get in touch with Dr. Ruth and with reality. Bill Clinton marry you? Please! And why would you want him in the first place?

Name: Lisa (Materialgirl@carolina.net) Time: 9/13/98 (10:25:32)

I vote for #2....I wish someone would pay me $40 million over 4 years to investigate someone's sex life. Sounds better than any job I've had yet. Also, I wonder how many members of congress (excluding the ones who have already been caught) could stand the glaring public and media spotlight on their sexual escapades. I think its time the U.S. moved onto to more important issues.

Name: Howard Wilson (h..wilson@worldnet.att.net) Time: 9/13/98 (10:20:7)

Clinton by far is the most outrageous. He lied to the American people, he lied to his staff, he lied to everyone. And he did it under oath as well. If he is not impeached it will set a moral tone of law breaking in this country that will extend for a long, long time.

Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided) Time: 9/13/98 (10:18:40)

First off, I try not to get involved with this thing at all because it takes focus away from my life.. my everyday life that I live does not involve Clinton or the government unless I'm arrested or harassed or drafted or the like, all of which I try to avoid as well. But I would have to say that Clinton in his role as a politician is the evil one here. Shift the focus from this scandal to the fact that he and many politicians keep the public in the dark... though I certainly can't blame 'em ..look at how the fools are reacting. I'd also like to point out my realization that you named the 'US media' ...which kinda outraged me a bit, because the media shoudln't be affiliated with the government.

Name: C.C.McDonald (camary24@ravenet.com) Time: 9/13/98 (10:17:46)

10% Clinton,15% Right wing Republicans and 75% Media. Product: a tarnished country.

Name: Mark Holmes (markholmes705@webtv.net) Time: 9/13/98 (10:8:26)
My vote goes to Bill Clinton, but I give an honorable mention to our news media and aall women's organizations. I find it ironic that Bill Clinton, a guy who's had more people murdered than Al Cappone and who should be shot for treason would be brought down simply for being an idiot. Clinton is the biggest phony to ever hold the job as President. Clinton tells us that "he's sorry." The only thing that he's sorry about is for getting caught. If Clinton ever gets buried in Arlington Cemetary, my name will be the first on the petition to have him exhumed. Save America, Impeach Clinton!

Name: Sheldini (shweiss@pipeline.com) Time: 9/13/98 (9:57:28)

I vote for Ken Starr. Sure, Clinton is an arrogant jerk but if not for the over zealous witch hunting of Starr, our nation would not be going through all this nonsense

Name: VAN HEATH (vheath@jamesvillenc.com) Time: 9/13/98 (9:52:8)

My vote can only go for BILL CLINTON, fornicator in chief and known liar. One can only think what our founding fathers would think to know just what walks the sacred halls of the White House today. He is a disgrace to all Americans and all that our nations has ever stood for....

Name: Bruce (howarth@concentric.net) Time: 9/13/98 (9:51:44)

Bill Clinton alone has brought this down around his neck. He should do the moral and ethical thing (which he is neither) and resign for the good of the country, because he can no longer lead.

Name: Walter Scott (wally@usaor.net) Time: 9/13/98 (9:49:38)

The American people get my vote as most outrageous by saying as long as the economy remains good, we like the President.

Name: Dolores E. Hall (dolores@flash.net) Time: 9/13/98 (9:47:27)

My vote, of course, is Bill Clinton. The man who envokes the fact that he is Comander in Cheif when it suits his purpose, but condones the Dishonorable Discharges and/or prison time for military personal for this same offence.

Name: Douglas Muir Hutton (dhutton@capeoc.net) Time: 9/13/98 (9:43:45)

There is one and only one person to blame for all of this. William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. Spare me all the pyschobabble. It's him!



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