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What is the big deal about Clinton lying? For those of you who don't know - why don't you ask Mark Fuhrman. An eighteen year old kid a one of our military academies has an honor code - I will not lie, cheat or steal nor tolerate anyone who does. They have more honor than the entire White House!

Today's "Outrage" was overly simplistic and ignores an apparrant common thread of lies, attacks against the victims and accusers, and stonewalling present in every Clinton scandal. It's not the sex stupid!

All of this sex and lies stuff is taking our focus off the REAL issue: all that money that came from China, and their operatives; Charlie Trie and The Lippo Group. Let's get back on track.

How much money came in? Where did it come from? What "favors" was it supposed to buy? What "favors" DID it buy?

Who wrote this garbage? Clinton has made sex a question due to his prolific activity. Maybe that barrel legged wife of his has driven him out of the house, but it is no excuse for the President to use the West Wing for his sexual gratification sessions. Clinton is the biggest liar to cross the national scene in history. He will go a mile to lie instead of a foot to tell the truth. How can we trust him on any subject? I obiviously don't need to chronicle his well documented lies here, but they are many. He has taken credit for everything that has happened since he came into office and maybe some before. He has little to do with the current state of the economy and a possible balanced budget. He is the Great Seducer and he has temporarily seduced 79% of Americans. You are right that he should not be driven from office because of sex. There are plenty of crimes for which he could be ousted. Again he takes credit for everything. Let him take credit for his adultery. Let him confess to all of us that he lied about it. Then he can be ousted for the serious offenses he and Hillary have committed. I am ashamed of the 79% of Americans who think he is so terrific. I am outraged at this issue of The Outrage because many of us still believe in credibility, integrity, ethics, and moral responsibility.

I am reminded of the President and Vice President pushing for adoption of the "V-Chip" to help us shield our children from "objectionable material" on TV. Perhaps they knew that some day the President himself would be providing that same objectionable material. I'm glad that he was thinking of "the children."

This never was about the president's sex life . It is about abuse of power. Do we owe appologies to the army sargents that had consentual sex with the recruits under their command? Do we owe appologies to the business people that were fired due to sexual harassment of their subordinates? You want someone who can be blackmailed by an intern to get her a job to be in control of all our nuclear weapons so he can be blackmailed by the head of a foreign government? You must be kidding me.

Who did you have sex with? Did you give him/her presents? We want to see the presents! Did you write him/her poetry? Let's see it! - You say these questions are illegitimate and should be asked. I can't disagree more. A leader's personal life, personal mores, personal ethics, personal beliefs matter as much as any publically acknowledged mores, ethics, and beliefs. I want to know what type of man is going to send my fellow citizens into harm's way and what personal criteria does he use to make that decision. Bill Clinton has US troops in Bosnia because he is clueless as to how to get out without making an unpopular decison. He is caught in the very same trap which caused LBJ to escalate the Viet Namese war. Neither of them had/has the guts to make a hard decision, both have always been able to steer a slippery course through what they percieve the "middle" is. Anyone who knows American History also knows that a significant part of the incredible leadership George Washington had was due to his very well known personal integrity, honesty, and loyalty. Without GW we would probably still be a British Colony or Commonwealth. Without personal honesty, integrity, and, yes, purity George Washington would not have been as effective as he had to be. This is only one lesson. Look at every major war we've been involved in. You will find a sitting president who had wishy washy morals and very little in the way of personal integrity, men who believed in little except doing whatever they needed to do to achieve whatever goals they believed in at the moment. For everyone who says; "I don't care who he is screwing!" I would reply; "He's doing it to you!!" I want someone in the White House who would not mind in the least being asked the questions: "Who did you have sex with? Did you give him/her presents? We want to see the presents! Did you write him/her poetry? Let's see it!" This matters people! Get your heads out of rectal defilade!!!

I'm beginning to wonder whose writing your tripe. This started with the Clinton administration (through one of his procument troopers) lying about Paula Jones. His conduct with Monica Lewinsky is VERY pertinent to the Jones situation. The Clinton administration tactic of smearing the character of their opponents needs to be exposed. The fact that Clinton continually lies to Hillary, congress, investigators AND the VOTERS is very significant. You people have your head in the sand which exposes your ___ ! I'm about reading to cancel this tripe if this is going to be typical.

An excellent commentary. Anyone who has to look to a president or any other career politician for "moral leadership" is sorely lacking as an individual.

What any person does in private with another consenting adult is no one else's business -- and the people involved have no moral or legal obligation to answer questions about it. Even if Clinton did make a crude come-on to Jones, he didn't penalize her or jeopardize her career. If she was offended, she should have taken immediate action. As for Flowers and Lewinsky, if indeed the accusations, allegations, or rumors are true, so what? Obviously, the liasons, if they occurred, were consensual and the two women voluntarily chose to have an affair with a married man.

History shows us that leaders with healthy libidos, whether male or female, are no better or worse than those with almost Puritanical lifestyles.

The only columnist I know that makes any sense is Molly Ivins. She said, "I don't care who the president screws as long as it's not the people." I agree.

You claim "A hallmark of liberty is the belief in privacy, and protection from governmental or other intrusions into your personal life." Perhaps that was once true, but this government has evolved to the point that average citizens can not protect themselves from the intrusions and political agendas fo the government. I have no compassion for Clinton, he is only getting what has evolved for the rest of us. If you don't want the Prez to be treated this way, then it shouldn't be ok for the average Joe or Jane either.

The main problem with the positive polls, and the defensive articles (like yours), is that it shows a tremendous amount of stupidity is floating around out there in the heads of Americans (DO included). Just because unemployment is low, the stocks market is high, and the economy is purring along, doesn't necessarily mean each individual is doing any better. First of all, Herr Clinton has very little to do with those things. And secondly, if I have to live in socialism to achieve those goals, I don't want them. Day by day, socialists like Clinton remove some more of our freedoms (like the freedom to hire somebody for $3.75 an hour). That is what's important. And in this respect the entire working class has been screwed by this president. If you think that BC is not a socialist, you're wrong. Check out his policies. They all lead to more and more gov't control of the economy. Let's not forget that his wife worked for a card carrying communist while in law school. Do you think she's become a capitalist since than. I haven't heard her repudiate communism or socialism lately. As for the most recent DO, that itself is an outrage. Every scandal has been brought about by BC himself. Blaming the investigator is wrong. You think it's sad that Curry was hauled in for questioning? I think it's sad the position she was put in by BC. You think it's wrong to ask about the gifts? I think it's wrong to bribe a 21 y/o intern for oral sex with presidential trinkets. I think it's wrong to ask Curry to retrieve such gifts. You think it's wrong that Tripp taped phone calls? I think it's wrong that our president put so many people in the position of having to testify before a grand jury, which is why she taped the calls in the first place (to protect herself from the presidential attack dogs). DO has missed the boat on this story. ALL of this, from Ken Starr's 1st day, is the fault of one man: Comrad Bill Clinton. To even consider criticizing Starr, or the media is insane.

In your latest issue, you state, "You have no moral obligation to honestly answer a question if the interrogator has no right to ask the question."

What an utter load of horse hockey!

While I would agree with a statement saying that he didn't have to answer the question (i.e. answer by saying "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that you have no right to ask it."), saying that being asked a personal question gives you the right to lie is pure nonsense.

My question is that if Bill is so willing to lie about things like this *under oath*, what else has he lied to us about?

Also, I could care less what the subject of the statement was -- you lie under oath, that's perjury. You commit perjury, you pay the consequences.

As I heard it stated on a radio program a few days ago, if you were the president of a company and one of the (married) VP's was fooling around with a secretary, would you let it go unaddressed? I think this kind of behavior (and consequently Bill's behavior) shows a stunning lack of judgement and an abhorrent abuse of power.

I think it would be so good for the nation if Clinton would be impeached. I do not believe anything that he says.

Kevin Brown

I believe that the approval ratings are fake. Unless the American people are complete idiots. The moral cowardice of President Clinton is outrageous. He cannot tell the truth!

Outraged? Yes! Agree with your comments. It's outrageous that the people elected a man who is more concerned with his ego than with the good of the country. He is a "by god spellbinder" as demonstrated by his State of the Union address. Overstated, inaccurate, filled with inconsistencies, claiming welfare reform, when he strongly fought it, vetoed the budget so the government would be shut down and then blamed it on the Republicans, claiming the first surplus in 30 years balanced against income that we don't have, etc.; you know what I'm talking about. If the record is checked, our real gains were the result of the first Republican Congress in 40 years.

If Clinton would use his ability to spellbind our former allies, maybe we would have a chance in Iraq. At present, we only have England giving us full support. President Bush had allied support world wide with few exceptions. Clinton's ability as a world leader is a shining failure. He might bamboozle some gullible Americans, but not the world.

While the story itself is sad, pathetic, and embarrassing, the irony is delicious. This President was elected on the strength of his appeal to women voters. The feminists crowed that they finally had someone in the White House who "felt their pain" and would address their needs. It was this same group, outraged at the Clarence Thomas hearings, who pushed for changes in the laws that enabled Paula Jones' lawyers to question Clinton so widely, to make an issue of his past.

You are 100% correct when you say that he should be able to answer "None of your business." Up until 6 years ago, he could have. But Political Correctness and the feminist agenda changed the rules, and it is wonderfully ironic that this most Politically Correct president was caught by those rule changes.

You say you beleive Paula Jones is telling the truth. If I had exposed myself to a woman and they came forward within five years with a complaint, I'd go to jail if convicted, So this is a very serious accusation. And yes I know her complaint is in civil court.

You've accepted one of the common misconceptions about this case. The issue is not about whether or not the president had sex with someone other than his wife. It is about the constant stream of lies coming from this administration. The suggestion that because the question may be inappropriate it would then be acceptable to lie about it is nonsense. Given the increasing power of the state, we must hold our politicians to a higher standard than the rest of us, not a lower one.

somebody or (maybe the republicans) want bill clinton out of office so there going to do anything to try and bring him done.

The most outrageous part about the Clinton sex scandal is the incredible amount of time, energy, and taxpayer MONEY wasted in the pursuit of determining where Bill's winkie has been! I don't care where it's been and I certainly don't want to pay any more to find out.

It's disturbing to see the Clinton defenders encouraging the suspension of the constitution. Freedom of the Press, as well as Freedom of Speech are foundational to our Republic.

If Clinton did wrong, he should be exposed. If he did no wrong, then the press will take it's licks as sloppy practitioners of their craft.

One thing we do know about the Clinton's. They have added millions to the cost of Kenneth Starr's investigation and months to the time it has taken with their stonewalling and obviscation of evidence ("lost" files turning up in Hillary's private office; refusing to allow the review of Secret Service Logs of White House visitors; the whole FileGate mess). And the beat goes on and on and on.

Clever retort for those who say that they don't care about Clinton's personal life, just his performance as President - "Would you buy a used car from him?"

The degree and kind of a man's sexuality reach up into the ultimate pinnacle of his spirit. -- Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

Those who are being poled should realize that their hoped-for results actually reveal to the rest of us what portion of our society then condones in the way of risky, salacious and criminal behavior in the highest offices of a free country.

Where there are no morals, or respect for them, there is no FREEDOM.

I have never thought much of Clinton and even less of his wife, but I wish my party (rep) would stay focused on his important mistakes and not let his sex life mask his real sins. Hilary stands the humiliation like any other co-dependant.

She is no more strong and independant than any other abused woman, or maybe he knows too much. A husband can't testify against a wife.

We get what we deserve and those of you that voted for Clinton must be proud. He is no better than an animal but the worst part is the influence that he has on our KIDS.

To start with: God bless "The Outrage" for allowing us to voice our opinions!

A newly discovered tale of Dr Seuss

STARR I ARE --

I'm here to ask
As you'll soon see --
Did you grope
Miss Lewinsky?

Did you grope her
In your house?
Did you grope
Beneath her blouse?

I did not do that
Here or there--
I did not do that
Anywhere!

I did not do that
Near or far --
I did not do that
Starr-You-Are

Did you smile?
Did you flirt?
Did you peek
Beneath her skirt?

And did you tell
the girl to lie
When called upon
To testify?

I do not like you Starr-You-Are --
I think that you
Have gone too far

I will not answer
Any more --
Perhaps I will go
Start a war!

The public's easy
To distract --
When bombs are
Falling on Iraq!

If a Sergeant-Major in the Army has intimacies with a subordinate, he/she is removed from office.

Should the Commander in Chief be held to a different standard?

Great Job Guys and Gals,

The issue that I have with Clinton is the perjury and subborning of perjury - these are criminal offenses.

His sex life is his and Hiliary's business - though he shouldn't be using the Whitehouse for his escapades....

Finally, I am disgusted with the American People - the moral decline is dangerous....

It's amusing to read all of these excuses and rationalizations I've seen over the past week. This fraud in the Oval Office was elected the first time because he was a skillful campaigner and many people were mad at Bush over the taxes. But Clinton promised a tax cut which he did not deliver on. He started breaking campaign promises right and left.

The real issue is obstruction of justice and perjury--but few people care-- a sad commentary on the moral collapse of our society.

I think Bill has been the first in a long time, I mean long time person elected to the presidency of this United States who is more like a regular person. Regular people get in trouble, who hasn't?

I am tired of hearing about the affair. Lets hear the real issue that he may have lied under oath, or told some one else to lie under oath. When will the media, and the public get it in their heads that this is about the truth, not some affair. I can handle a president that is not monogomous, but I can not handle a president that obstructs justice, and commits perjury. .

At least half of America approves of the disgrace occupying the White House because they cannot admit they're wrong about the man, much less his policies. Kinda like the Soviet Union, where its Russian subjects couldn't admit that 73 years of blood and suffering was for nought.

The President should be held to a higher standard, sound familiar Bill? Many people look up to the President and that is one reason morality is important.

Bill hasn't separated his personal life from his job. Affairs hurt the people involved and the nation.

A man's sexual practices, on the premises of his elected office, with his employees/interns, under the same roof with his wife and family, are direct indicators of his character.

And character is directly related to respect for, and fair administration of, the laws he is expected to administer. (Laws about things like campaign finances and perjury, for example.)

He may be a decent administrator, but no president can actually *lead* a nation unless he is perceived as being honest and of good character.

Clinton's legacy may well be his creation of a new axiom: Alls fair in Love and Politics.

Whoever said that (in reference to the Clinton scandal) it is our great morals that has made America a super-power needs to stop getting their education from Sunday morning TV and start taking night classes in American Government.

The real issue here is that the man lied under oath.

I scoff at those who pathetically defend Clinton when they say, "Who cares? His sex life is his own business." The man is MARRIED, you apathetic morons! What does that say about his character?

He lied to us for years by saying he had no involvement with Gennifer Flowers when he was governor of Arkansas, but he then reluctantly admits it in the Paula Jones deposition when he is questioned under oath! Why should we believe him now when he denies being involved with Lewinsky?

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The respect that is due the "office" of the president of the United States does not automatically lend itself to the person who occupies the position when they continuously involve themselves in immoral and disreputable situations.

A higher standard is, and should be, expected of them. I am ashamed for my country and disgusted with those who continue to support Clinton.

america,the only country worried about morality?

America can best be described as a sleazy, pit of immorality on its best days.

I think that what bothers me most in the Clinton affair is that the American people don't care about either the affair or the fact that he may have lied.

Character does not seem to matter as long as we get ours.The economy is very good (I don't think Clinton can take the credit) and as long as it stays this way people will not care about the antics in the Oval Office. This could be considered an outrage but it will notchange.

I thought fidelity was part of the marriage service.

What's all the fuss about? Bill Clinton hasn't done anything to Monica Lewinsky that he hasn't done to every other taxpayer in America.

* Everyone knew Clinton was a sleazy character when he was elected president. Not once, but twice. This is democracy at work, and the people deserve what they get. I would have been surprised if some scandal like this had NOT been uncovered.

Whoever said this was absolutely right!!! Furthermore, IMHO, its a sad day for this country when children need to be sent from the room when the news is on because they shouldn't hear about what "our" President is doing in his "spare time"!

I agree; two elections, twice elected, democratic process. Problem is me and my loved ones must live with the results.

Ask if this were your husband and what you should/would do? Ask what you would /should do if this were your daughter?

Have we, as the great tax paying unwashed become so complacent as to not care who/ what is running the country?

Not demanding and forcing the people we elect to government to be above reproch, in deed, in action, and in thought, shows we are going to get what we let happen to our country. One day we will wake up and see theat 'Rome' fell while we let the fiddlers play! The American people need to get more involved.

Right now the only Americans interested in Gov't are those that depend on a handout from same (welfare, government workers, polititions, government programs, and hangers on, etc. We have met the enemy and it is us! (per pogo).

Just finished reading the comments in Outrage - where do these people come from. It's not about sex it's about lying and just remember the Gennifer Flowers denial by our fearless leader!

If Mr. Clinton is not held responsible for his actions, we should apologize to all the sargents that were sent to jail for their sexual harassment of those enlistee's under their command.

Although amusing today's outrage mostly ignores that the only direct testimony in this case is the president and Monica Lewinsky stating that it never happened.

Your comment about being tried by the Media says it all. Might I remind people that these are charges, not facts. Could we possibly look at the people making the charges the same way we are comdeming our President.

I think there are a lot of people who just wish that they would get on to something else to sell news, and let him do his job. Am I the only one who feels that we are one heck of a lot better off in this now than when WE elected him.

The unspoken tragedy is the nation doesn't think character matters. The founding fathers' writings are replete with references to the contrary. Who you are when in private, is who you pretend not to be when in public.

Bill Clinton, based on the J. Flowers story, is a convenant breaker (marriage covenant). This ongoing situation proves he can't be trusted when personal gratification is on the line, so why should we expect to be able to trust him when his execution of office requires a tough decision that demands honor, character, courage, and self-sacrifice?

Even though adultery may not be an impeachable offense, it does reveal what an unformed character exists within the President of the United States.

At the beginning of the 19th century, Noah Webster said something like this, "Make a judgement on a politician based soley on his private life for what a man allows the public to see can be altered to hide his true character.

Most of the time a politician spends in public service is out of public view.

I personally do not care who W.J. Clinton tries to have sex with, I don't care when and where he does it.

But when the President of the United States commits a crime, or causes another to commit a crime trying to cover up his philandering, then it is time to take some action.

If Clinton would read the U.S. Constitution, he would see that his office is only for as long as he is on his best behavior, I believe the terms High crimes and Misdemeanors is used as the measuring stick for his tenure in office.

It is a sad world we live in today. When one profession (news media) can do the damage they do to people like our president. I was always taught in school that anyone is not-guilty until proven guilty.

Unless, you or I were there how do we know what went on. .

A 24-year-old who wants immunity! A single 24 year old female that supposedly engages in sex with the President of the United States! A female who is an adult, of legal age, agrees to sexual conduct with a married man to only later offer this information to the public to gain fame and fortune through the news media.

What I think is this: Clinton has lied. Clinton will continue to lie. He is a liar.

Hillary is a pathetic, money grubbing , hanger on. If she were a member of the middle class whose husband had been cheating on her for years......she wouldn't be married to him anymore. She would have divorced him years ago. They are a perfect match.

I don't care how it happened, why it happened (unless it was harassment), when it happened, but I do care WHERE it happened. It's the White House for GOODNESS sake... Is nothing sacred? I care that I am continually LIED to by the Clintons and others on a daily basis. When the Prez of the U.S. looks at the camera and says "I did NOT have sexual relations with this woman, Miss Lewinsky" and if it is proven true that he did, I want his ASS fired...and soon.

This incident is a small blip on the screen of this man's life, but it is symptomatic.

He is totally without morals, and thinks of no one except in terms of himself. He sells out his family, country, friends in endless self promotion. Look at the trail of personal and public devestation that has followed his life.

Hilary is an abused woman, but she uses him the same as he uses her. I sincerely hope our country can survive the likes of these two. No wonder Chelsa chose a school as far away from them as she could find.

Remember, just as the public here in the USA look at the Iraqies as nutballs because of Hussein (even though there are good people that would like to throw him out in that country), We Americans are looked upon as sex addicts, perverts and the like around the world by the way the world views Bill Clinton and his leftist, cronies. Will we have to put bags on our heads when travelling overseas?

What really burns me about this sordid affair is considering the damage done to the military by sex scandels, the hullabaloo during the Clarence Thomas nomination, and all of the other sexual "discrimination" incidents we have had jammed down our throats during the past few years, we get such a poor example from Mr. Clinton.

Bill and Hillary has brought Arkansas ethics and morality to the White House. What a shame!

A leader should be one that commands respect, not disrespect. The congressional Democrats should ask Bill to resign!

Anyone in charge of nuclear weapons and military secrets should not be engaging in activities that leave them susceptible to blackmail.

Do promises matter? Apparently not to president Bill. Should power be exercised with responsibility. Apparantly not if you are President Bill. If you are President Bill and you want to grope your subordinates go ahead. Where are the feminists when you really need them?

Is it wrong to lie under oath and to ask others to perjure themselves if you are a fry cook at McDonalds? If it is then how much worse is this type of behaviour from the lead law enforcement officer and chief prosecutor of the United States of America?

Hey, I have a crazy idea-- let's hold the leader of our great country to a higher standard. Is that nuts or what!?! His position requires incredible strength of character, and what kind of character can an adulterer (admittedly) have?

If we can't trust an oath he took before his wife and God, how can we trust him with leading our country? Or if the allegations of perjury and/or subordinating perjury are true? That's just one more lie on the stack. And, unfortunately, the People wouldn't care. It's the sad state of our moral culture.