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i love this! it preety funny

The last I heard was 13 guilty including the Governor of AR - we don't hear about that too often, but we always hear how we are not getting our $$ worth !

I do not know who these people are polling. I know that I am outraged that this corrupt president and his gangsters have not been put in prison and the key thrown away! It is not about his affairs, it's about the lies and unbelievable coruption he is tied to. How can America which was found on We the People, God and Country, moral values stand for this kind of leadership? Do we really want the children to look up to this kind of moral decay? Anything goes abuse of power. What message do you think this is giving them? If you don't know look around. We the people need to get our priorities straight or there will be no need to be outraged any longer. You'll be a bunch of numbers in camps for them to do to you what Hitler did to the Jews!!!! PAY ATTENTION!!!!! LOOK AT WHAT THIS IS LEADING TO!!! Do some research and you will see this has been in action for a long time.Council on Foreign Relation (CRF). Bilderbergs (BB),Trailateral Commission (TT), Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones Society (Yale) just to start you off. Your pres. belongs to the CRF,TT,BB. Go figure.

A two bit land deal in a two bit state and a sleazy sex scandal in which a mother is forced to testify about her daughter's sexual misadventures. This is what $30,000,000 and three years have purchased for us by Kenneth Starr.

If most people know that the president lied about Jennifer Flowers; that he lied about "that woman" Monica; he lied about balancing the budget (becuase 65 billion dollars don't exisit); tell me when I can believe he is not lying. Could he be lying about what we should and could do in Iraq just like the truth about our 18 young men killed in Somalia was never revealed to the American people. The pictures of their bodies being dragged naked through the street and mutilated by the people we were helping was never shown on TV. Thank God for big satellite systems. I gues they will become illegal soon too as part of the Right Wing conspiracy. But please let me know when the president is telling the truth.

Liberals created the environment in which a women can bring a man down with little or no evidence. Let them Choke on It !!

The greater outrage is your lack of cognizance of the subject. The subject is not who bill clinton (small case on purpose) received oral sex from, it is that he probably committed a FELONY (caps on purpose) by lying in a deposition. Your statement "But we're relieved that Clinton will probably not be brought down by this scandal, even as the evidence against him becomes overwhelming. " outrages me most of all. Are you so dogmatic about democratic liberalism that a matter of crime becomes immaterial? This is amazing.

I'm amazed at the blase attitude that you take. The real outrage is that we have a society who have been so inured to immorality that even when the President engages in it, it's no big deal. All socities in history, who have suffered moral decay become extinct. The issue is not sex!!! The issue is the total dishonesty of this administration. The fact that the "American?" people do not feel that their highest official lies with impunity, knowing that the people don't care is the real outrage.

What a pitiful species we are to spend so much time, effort (and money) on such meaningless crap. There are so many things wrong in the world that need our attention (before it's too late) that brings us to true 'pleasure'. Get your heads on straight people.

Anything, even liberty, can be carried to extremes. Unchecked by morality and ethics, liberty devolves into chaos. To suggest that Clinton's conduct IN THE WHITE HOUSE should not be scrutinized out of fear that the same scrutiny will be directed toward the general populace, is an illogical comparison. But if you insist on making the comparison, consider this: If I were to engage in sexual relations IN THE WORKPLACE and my employer became aware of it, I would be asked to resign immediately, with very little discussion. The allegations against Clinton involve serious legal issues, not just sexual impropriety. If any of the allegations are true, legal or otherwise, he should muster up some semblance of dignity and resign. The cause of liberty, far from being threatened, would be strengthened and upheld..

Of course. Remove God from schools (ACLU/Reno) and there is no moral ideal. Remove math from schools (Clinton/Gore/Riley) and there is no basis for logical thought. Remove discipline and restraint-as-ideal from our society and there is no order. Provide paper-only cash and people collapse into self-servitude. Mix it all together and we have trickle-down immorality. (impeachclinton.com)

Today's outrage stated you were, "Outraged that politicians can look their constituents straight in the eye, lie, and get away with it."

Then you follow it with, "But we're relieved that Clinton will probably not be brought down by this scandal, even as the evidence against him becomes overwhelming."

Now that is outrageous. I am truly shocked that you seem to imply that nothing should come out of Clintons latest tirades. That society should tolerate Clintons moral character, or lack thereof.

The biggest outrage in this land is that we refuse to acknowledge that the decline of the moral fiber of this country has all but destroyed it. Dan Quale had it right when he spoke against Murphy Brown.

Bill Clinton is the leader of the free world (not by my vote, but in office just the same) and with that comes a responsibility, an obligation. The damage that this administration has done to the very soul of America will not be repaired. Clinton has taught us that sexual harrassment / adultery / lying under oath /obstruction of justice and just plain lack of integrity are issues that are of little importance in our world. It is no wonder that society has sunk to this level. We should be ashamed that this has happened, not indifferent. The cost to this country is beyond overwhelming and is long term at that!

The strength behind the outrage itself is derived from expecting our government to do what is right. If any of us in the private sector pulled the stunts that Clinton has, we would be imprisoned. Thumbs down to this Outrage.

Dear outrage,
I truly dont care whether our beloved Pres had an affair with Monica or any of the other women who have been alledged to have been intimate with him. What bothers me is that he IS a liar. It's a sad commentary on our country that we expect our elected officials to routinely lie to us. Yet we vote the same people into office time and again. Our founding fathers certainly didn't expect it when they founded our republic. All my liberal friends tell me that Bubba is doing a good job running the country, but when I ask them what he has done none can tell me. I tell them that the President is supposed to set the example for the country, not be the laughing stock. Hopefully the nation can rise above all this, but I am not optimistic. I think we are in deep trouble. Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,
Ed

The outrage here is not only the lack of morals demonstrated by our President, but the number of individuals who accept this behavior has normal and acceptable. What the President does in his private life IS meaningful to all of us. I work for a company, and therefore represent that company. If I do things which would bring negative publicity to the company, I would be fired. I realize that a lot of people have the same low moral attitudes of Bill, however, that doesn't mean our President should be of the same ilk. What the President does in his private life is indicative of his decision process. How can anyone say that the job is separate from the man? What we do is who we are. How many poeple has Bill "done in" along the way to the Presidency. Do we as a people want to "trust" someone to make decisions affecting our very lives who can't make a moral decision to keep his pants zipped when they should be? Would you feel it was OK for you school principal to be sexually involved with a teacher while "on duty" at the school? What would you do if your boss was playing sexual favorites with a co-worker, then rewarding that person for those favors? Do you want to be associated with an individual who would make vows with one person, then break them on a regular basis. The incidents with Paula Jones and Monica Lewinski are indications of the type of individual this man is. It indicated he cannot be trusted to make the big decision when necessary. Let's get on the band wagon to get rid of someone who should never have been elected as the Leader of the greatest nation in the World! While some foreign countries think we are "Victorian" in our thinking and should get our thoughts out of the bedrooms, our leadership in the World and many successes would indicate maybe we have something that's important. Maybe if everyone were to get back to following basic Christian/Muslim/Judean laws and customs, the World would be a much better place to live. We could start by putting someone in the WhiteHouse who has some moral integrity and will do what is right for everyone and not just those with large bank accounts and/or breasts.

I am outrgaged at your most recent " The Outrage". First off, you should get your facts straight before sending anything to us. Paula Jones waited to report the incident about her encounter with Clinton ONLY after her name appeared in a magazine. She never had any intention of reporting it but when her honesty was called into question after the article appeared, she felt compelled to speak out. Second, we are not dealing here with whether Clinton had sex, what Ken Starr is trying to determine is whether Clinton lied under oath and possibly suborned perjury in the process. Furthermore, maybe you don't think that the presidents extra marital affairs are any concern of ours, WRONGO, we need a president who is held to nothing but the highest standards and among those standards is morality and fidelity. We should not accept anything less for the most powerful man leading the most powerful country in the world. This is not a banana republic or some African nation where moral corruption is the order of the day for their countries leaders. Should we be compared to them? Should we emulate them? You say in your piece,"We're saddened that people's expectations of their highest elected officials have sunk so low". Really, then what have you said in your piece that would help to regain great expectations? Nothing, you have taken the low road and simply accept such behavior as normal. Is that the way you will raise your children? Hey kid, go ahead, be a turd, we never had any great expectations for you anyway, it's not normal anymore. What will be next?, stopping at the curb to relieve ourselves? With your attitude, that is exactly where we are headed. It's okay kid, and when you're done why not walk over there and see if you can get it on with that cute little girl over there, we'll stay her and watch. It's no ones business!

I believe your conclusion to your outrage is severly flawed. When Bill Clinton took the oath of office to become our president/commander in chief he is going to be expected to be honest and straight forward w/ the American people. Men and women in the armed services are put on trialfor lesser offenses. Nixon was impeached for lying and seeking to manipulate the system. The current situation would be comical if it weren't so trajic. This criminal must go.

You idiots missed the boat on this one. Now I know who makes up the 79% that still approve of our philandering president. You probably think OJ is innocent. What lunacy!!

The White House is the people's house.
WE, the American people own this house.
WE, the American people sign their paychecks.
WE, the American people would like some respect shown in OUR house.
OUR house is not some sleezy porn shop.
OUR leaders are supposed to be role models.
So far, this administration is making a mockery of what WE, the American people stand for.

MOST OF THE TIME YOU ARE OUTRAGED PROPERLY. BUT ONCE MUST QUESTION YOUR OUTRAGE AT QUESTIONING SEXUAL "ACTIVITIES" OF A PUBLIC FIGURE, WHILE HE IS SERVING IN PUBLIC OFFICE!

"PUBLIC OFFICE" IS THE DEAD GIVEAWAY! PUBLIC OFFICE REQUIRE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF ALL PRIVATE MATTERS, INCLUDING SEX-ACTS! THERE IS A GOOD REASON FOR THIS, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE IGNORED IT!

"PUBLIC TRUST!" WOULD YOU "TRUST" A SEXUAL-PERVERT WITH DECISIONS THAT DRASTICALLY AFFECT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY? OF COURSE NOT! YET YOU WHINE AND MEWEL ABOUT KLINTON'S SEXUAL-DEVIENCY AND DEPRAVATY? WHY?

AT ANY TIME HE WANTS, KLINTON CAN RESIGN! IT MAY NOT RESULT IN ESCAPI8NG CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR CRIMINAL ACTS, BUT RE-ASSUMING PRIVATE LIFE WOULD GIVE HIM PRIVCACY. HIS RESPONSE TO REGAINING PRIVATE LIFE IS:"NEVER!"

SOOOOO....HE ACCEPTED THE PENALTIES OF MISBEHAVIOR WHILE IN PUBLIC OFFICE! HE MADE THE CHOICE! WHY DON'T YOU ALSO ACCEPT HIS CHOICE! AND STOP THE WHINING! PLEASE!

SINCERELY, SAM HILL

I take it that it is OK then to Sexually harras people under you. The irony is the Army is just starting a suit against the highest ranking Non-Com while his Comander in Chief is doing the same thing.

Ask Senator Packwood or Judge Thomas about this. Can you imagine what the Press would have done to them. Look what they did to them with no sex involved.

Which is it? I quess in your minds the end does justify the means. It's OK if you are a Liberal.

I agree that the President's sex life is none of our business and that he shouldn't have to answer questions like he has been asked. Sadly though he is such a liar and has probably gotten so many people to lie for him that the only way to bust the snake is to amass such a mountain of evidence that he can be discredited and forced out. I also agree that he probably will not be forced out. Such is the state of this union. This president has set a new low mark and heaven help us now. What does the future hold for this country? What also bothers me is this whole thing hso dominated the media that we didn't even hear about the olympics until they had begun.

Regarding your comments re: Paula Jones, I find your comments offensive, insensitive, and intellectually wanting.

If this is the level of inane banter and myopic focus you bring to the table of national discussion, please don't bother to set a place for me.

This isn't a Outrage. This is merely the trite musings of an idiot staff. Useless, pointless, and utterly devoid of common sense.

Please remove me from this inane idiocy.

R.e. Official Lies
I do not believe that the end justifies the means except in war and we are involved in a war here. Do you have some other method or propose? We have the rough equivalent of an unlawfull mob running our country. This is a closed case, the evidence is out for all to see, and yet nothing gets done about it! And you are almost whining that we might take out the leader on lesser charges! O.K. fine, propose a way to get them on the more serious charges and let us proceed along those lines. Regarding Paula Jones. She is smart enough to have reported the details of her bad experience with then Gov. Clinton within minutes after it happened and to others within a few hours. NOT YEARS later. This is widely known. Your incorrect statments make me wonder if the fix-a roo is in with your organization. Jones is very much within her rights. A national publication made her look like another of Clintons sluts. And then to be called trailer park trash. She wants justice. And I do not fault her for it. You describe it as "wanting her pound of flesh". Not so, it is called justice in polite circles. You are so far off base with this portrayal of Jones and Clinton that I am forced to re think my opinion of you. If we as a nation are morally bound to stop Saddam then we are also equally morally bound to stop the unlawfull activity at the very top of our own government. We act like a nation of world wide house keepers and refuse to keep our own house in order. No one will come out of this national disgrace with a Purple Heart. This is dirty business. The prosecutor and the Congress must get dirty to finish it. I have heard enough of this high brow, hair splitting, nit wit thinking and talk. If we loose this war we have lost the Republic... FROM WITHIN!!!

I must say this column has sent me for a loop. I've gotten into the Clinton bashing thing, then along comes your article about not answering questions truthfully that are none of others business! And to think I thought the DO was just a gov't bashing group....

Well, most of the comments I read that were outraged about this issue of the DO are corect. This is not about the sex. What is more outrageous is that Clinton retains the support of the American people while obviously using the power of his office to get away with the lies and perjury. If the polls showing support for Clinton are correct, we are a morally bankrupt country...not because of the sex, but because of the lies and abuse of power.

Disagree with you completely (which is pretty unusual). The only shame is that Clinton may fall due to a sex scandal rather than the much more egregious, frankly treasonous, acts committed in the Campaign Finance Scandal.

I don't have time to take you on point by point (I'll leave that to other readers), but I have confidence you folks will come back to your senses soon. (:=})

-Jeff

You are right. We The People are to blame. By allowing this travesty to continue through our lack of interest, we are perpetuating the type of totalitarian state you spoke of. These people are public servants, right? Its up to us to stop this kind of STUFF! There are much more important things to worry about,in our own country..not just iraq. This is just a way (better him, than me) for them not to have make decisions that will be productive and not so much hot wind.Let the man be so he can get to work and EARN his paycheck, just like ME and YOU!

OK OK, you're right about the impropriety of the Clinton investigation. Trouble is, if Clinton survives this, does anyone really think that I, or any other conservative, will be able to escape a sexual persecution by pointing to Clinton? Since we all know the answer to this rhetorical question, should we be concerned about privacy as we hoist a leftist on his own petard? I don't know the answer to that one.

Also, what about Ms. Willey (sp?). I'm referring to the woman whose husband had just committed suicide when the predator-in-chief decided to use his power to molest her. THAT, friends, is not only odious, but criminal. Any person in power, whether private or public sector, who does that to a woman should be sent to the penitentiary.

The Question is not and never should have bee "did Clinton have sex with Miss Lewinsky" , the question is- "Did he tell her to lie to protect him" that is the crime (although adultery is a misdomeaner on D.C.) but the fasination this country has with sex has deflected the question.

I have a suggestion for an outrage--your present outrage!

The president is only supposed to hold his office as long as he does not commit any "high crimes and misdemeanors".

This is in the Constitution for the United States of America. It is extremely explicit about that. If we start allowing a little slip here, and another there then we had better just trash the whole thing, crown him king, and let him do what he will.

I'm surprised, after all of your columns that I've read, we finally disagree on something. I suspect if I were to wave my private parts at a secretary and suggest oral sex to her that somewhere down the line she may issue a complaint. She may not do it while I was the head of our division, but she may very well do so if I were to become president of the company. It takes no stretch of the imagination for anyone to believe that I was guilty of sexual harassment. It would also be quite feasible that my dumb ass would land in court for the stupid trick. Would it make sense, if I lied under oath and the lie was discovered, for the court to charge me with perjury? And do you suppose the Board of Directors would allow me to remain as the very high profile head of the company? I doubt it very seriously.

I also dispute your comment that Lewinsky was illegally taped. Wires are used all of the time by criminal investigators. They don't require a court order as does a wire tap. The president's defenders would like you to believe it was illegal, but it just "ain't so."

While you find it sad that so many people can accept a bald faced liar for president it appears you also accept the fact. Certainly none of us are naive enough to believe that politicians never lie, but rarely is that belief confirmed with hard facts that aren't covered up and swept under the rug. Nothing has been proven yet, but it seems to me this investigation should reach a climax (pun intended). If Billy is vindicated, bravo for him and shame on the many women who say he's a whore monger. One of the reasons the armed forces have been opposed to homosexuals in their ranks is they are afraid they can be too easily compromised by spies who offer up a little sex and then threaten to tell. The theory is homosexuals think with their "little" head too often. It appears on the surface that we have a president who allows his little head to take over just a little too often. Suppose Monica Lewinsky was really Mata Hari?

I say, "Off with his head!" The choice of which one is yours.

What a great role model for Ameican children! They can hope to grow up like the president; philanerer, liar, etc...

By the way, it's not the Republicans or Starr who are costing the American taxpayer some $40 million. It is this bunch in the White House!

There are those of us who don't give a damn if Clinton has a little on the side. as long as Hillary dont care why should we care. When clinton lies under oath, thats the time to dump him. It's not Clinton thats causing the prosperity it's the congress that is holding things in tow.

I agree that the issue regarding the personal conduct of the President is not very relevant to American's lives. However, I am concerned if he tried to cover up information and more importantly, did he and Vernon Jordan coerce Web Hubell into silence. This investigation really leads to similar actions taken by the President and Jordan to cover up and influence witnesses and leads to real questions of serious crimes being committed.

Today's outrage is simply an attempt to be outgageous right? Hey, I don't care who did what to whom with Clinton sexually. It is however ironic that something which should be private, might bring him down, while things that should be public business go unpunished.

I think you guys really missed the mark with this one - you'd probably be much better off staying away from politics, and especially when you're as obviously ignorant about the subject matter as with this item. But then again, what do I know??? I must be part of that "vast, right-wing conspiracy!" (right, Hillary)

Two points. First, it is NOT about Bill Clinton's sex life! If he wasn't so promiscous most people wouldn't care. However, that is not the issue. Lying under oath is a FELONY! That is the issue. Secondly, the feminists and the politically-correct element don't seem to have a problem with admirals and generals and N.C.O.'s being either court-martialled for much less than their Commander-In-Chief is being given a free ride (oops) on. A clear double standard. Clinton tried to hide behind an obscure military law until he was laughed at for doing so. If he was subject to the Uniform Code Of Military Justice in that instance, then why, as Commander-In-Chief, shouldn't he be held accountable now? Many good if not great military careers were ended for a good deal less. Personally, I think that we should insist on good moral conduct from our "leaders", and that they should be held to account when they lie (even if not under oath) or commit perjury or any other felony. If I did it, or if you did it, we would have to pay for it. Why should our Pres. or other politicians be allowed to get away with it?

RIDICULOUS!

Today's outrage that the POTUS' immoral and undisciplined sex life is not the business of the American people is out and out RUBBISH. The fact that this President has to spend so much of his time answering for him unfaithfulness is a Prime of example of why his is not fit to lead this nation. He has made the US a laughing stock of the world. Moreover, if the CEO of say MICROSOFT were to have the sex life that Clinton apparently does and used the same tactics, he would be brought up on charges so fats that it would make your head spin. And who would try and defend his actions? Who would say that this was not akin to sexual abuse/harrassment??? Who Could defend such actions? And the point that Kenneth Starr has been leaking information from his office is completely unfounded. What shred of evidence is there to support such an allegation? There is none. In fact the President's own people are saying that the so-called LEAK has come from "people close to the President's defense." The idea here (OF COURSE) is to tarnish the reputation of the Starr. A typical counter-attack maneuver. I'm surprised the POTUS waited so long to do it. All this taked away from the fact that this President has drug the office through the worst muck of any President in my memory. I am defnitely not a Democrat.. but I do not seem to recall the Carter administration being involved in scandal and after scandal! Bring back INTEGRITY to the office of the President!

- K -

Personally, I'm glad that we finally have a president who displays alpha male qualities!

I'm outraged at the DO because, if you believe this is about sex, you just don't get it. Ken Starr's investigation is about the abuse of power, from Clinton's Arkansas days when he helped loot the Madison Savings and Loan, to the little missus' trumped up firing of Billy Dale and the Travel Office staff so he could put in his cronies, to the purloining of 900 FBI files, to the latest attempt to tamper with witnesses and suborn purjury. Why has it taken so long, besides having his mandate extended 3 times (Travelgate, Filegate, and, now, Tailgate) the less than timely production of documents by the White House has contributed greatly to the lenth of the investigation. This latest extension came from the information on the Tripp tapes. Webb Hubble stiffed Starr after he agreed to provide information as a condition of his sentence and then didn't. Among other "consulting contracts" he received was one with Revlon, Inc. arranged by Vernon Jordan. Now he is presented with good old Vernon arranging for a job with Revlon for a lowly ex-White House intern. Even the brain dead or the product of our dumbed down educational system whould have to look at this as an emerging pattern of witness tampering. Jordan's press conference (at which he took no questions) stating that he helped many of low rank was a hoot and if you bought it, I have some prime swamp land for sale. Besides the legal issues which Starr is quite capable of handling, is the issue of lying. Bill Clinton is a pathological liar. He even lies when he doesn't have to. He seems to have surrounded himself with those that feel that lying is no big thing and this is what troubles me. It ought to trouble you too. As the leader of our country, when is he lying and when is he telling the truth? As to the "I'm not concerned as long as he isn't screwing me" defense, how can you be sure?

Now another little tidbit. When the going gets tough for Bill, Hill, and the gang, the reason for the 900 files becomes readily apparent-insurance. If they use them, and they will when the situation gets desperate, we had better start to add on to Allentown.