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Name: Terry Dickinson (outrage@terrydickinson.co.uk)
Time: 12/12/2001 (19:40:3)
Do you Americans never learn anything!!!
MLK was killed for what he believed in, therefore he deserves a holiday in his name, along with all of your people ever killed in a war, they all died for their beliefs. It does not matter whether history shows them to be right or wrong.
They were Americans behaving within the law, when they were killed and therefore deserve the respect of the American people.
Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided)
Time: 12/9/2001 (13:28:3)
Yes,I think that MLK should have a national holiday.I also think that we should also honor a day for all the people we lost in wars,and the ones that are still fighting for our country today.
Name: Sandra (SBatley@my2way.com)
Time: 8/20/2001 (14:47:37)
I think MLK deseves his own day. He fought for what he believed in using NON-Violence. Now I think we shouldnt celebrate St. Patricks Day. That is outrageous. How bout that.
MLK Holiday January 20.
Name: cécile (cecile.waterlot@freebel.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (16:32:35)
Yes, he deserves a day so people remember USA is an
international country, where all the people, whatever be the colour
have a dream of human rights respect, non violent civilisation
equal chances for evry one.
Democracy is still a dream...
Name: K (luvmysailr@aol.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (16:21:10)
NO!!! I do not think MLK deserves his own holiday! My husband has been serving in the US Navy for almost six years. I think the men and women who devote their lives every day to protect OUR freedoms should be honored and remembered. I think it is a terrible world to live in where we forget those who gave all so that we may live with our freedoms.
Name: Randall Collins (rpcarch@mindspring.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (15:59:8)
not in a million years
Name: --Anonymous-- (ptc@iglou.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (15:50:36)
MLK shouldn't have a special
holiday unless Robert E. Lee
gets one, two. Or Alvin York,
for that matter
Name: CONNIE (IAMREDSWIFE@AOL.COM)
Time: 1/16/2000 (15:31:42)
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!
VOTE FOR ALAN KEYES!
Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided)
Time: 1/16/2000 (15:28:16)
This is a response to Mr. Robert Stallings post. I agree with
you up to a point, but I think that what you do not understand
is that if america were still a free society, there would be
a lot fewer people on the welfare rolls. If you don't like all the
people living off of the government (in effect, you) then you
should get upset with a government that penalizes people
for trying to be productive and support themselves.
To give you a brief example, consider that during the great depression
many people got by because they went into business for
themselves, even if only by selling apples from a street
corner. Now, it doesn't take great intelligence to sell apples
from a street corner - if you can count change you can probably
do it (not to say it's the perfect job, but many peple could handle it).
But could you do that nowadays? Heck no! First of all there's
probably laws in your town prohibiting street peddling - the
local supermarkets don't like the competition, you see. But
even if that were not the case, you'd have to file for a business
license, fill out all sorts of paperwork, and maybe you'd need
a cash register to keep records that the government thinks proper.
What I am trying to say is that up until about 30 or 40 years ago,
we rewarded individual initiative. Now we penalize it, and reward
people for not working. People are not stupid - if you make
it hard for them to do honest work, and easy for them to not work,
what do you suppose many people will do?
Or take people who have health or mental problems, that might
be able to work only four hours a day, but gvernment regulations
are such that most businesses find it cheaper to hire one person
and work them 8-12 hours a day rather than two or three four hour
workers (Why? Because the government says you have to provide
all sorts of "benefits" for each employee). So the person who could
be productive up to the limits of their capability are told to just shut
up and take a monthly check (in fact, they are told that if they DO find
only part time work, they will lose their health care coverage from the
state - and no employer I know of provides health care for part time
employees).
So, Mr. Stallings, I don't blame you for being upset, but please
be upset with the right people - your elected representatives
who have tried to box everyone into one mold, leaving little
room for the person who can't work the conventional 8 hour shift
and who can't handle all kinds of paperwork just to start a little
business of their own. Believe me when I say that many of
the people who receive the benefits are also quite upset, since
they are told that any actions they take to help themselves or their
families will be penalized, but if they will just shut up and take the
food stamps, money, and medical care, they will be okay (and
the government bureaucrats who administer such programs
get to keep their jobs).
There are some things about the Libertarian party's platform that I
think are totally wrong, but in general they have the right idea,
which is that every time government gets involved in something,
they really screw it up. In their effort to enforce "fairness", they
set up programs that aren't fair to anybody. They stifle ambition,
and by the way, they also usurp one of the legitimate functions
of the church, which is to help the poor (and it's probably no
concidence that church attendence and committment has fallen
since the government started doing things that the church has
always traditionally done).
So if you are going to be angry about the government giving away
your hard-earned money, that's fine - but just remember, the people
who are taking it don't perceive it as stealing from you, because
in many cases they are given few other options, and they aren't
the ones doing the taking - it's your elected officials playing the
part of Robin Hood (or maybe hoods robbing). Also, if you are
consistent in your beliefs, you won't accept any social security
when you turn 65 - that, after all, is simply welfare for the elderly.
Or, you could try to understand that it's not just people being
lazy - sometimes that is the case but a lot of these people would
have got along just fine under the system we had during the
all-too-brief period after the civil war, when there was freedom
for all, little government interference in people's day-to-day
lives, and the states had not yet institutionalized discrimination.
(which lasted until the 1960's or later in some states!).
Name: Douglas Muir Hutton (dhutton@capecod.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (15:26:6)
Such a commentary as the one concerning Martin Luther King, Jr. might well have some people thinking you are off your "Rocker". One P.C. shrink, coming up !
Name: Bob Plunkett (plunkettrc@aol.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (15:17:14)
NO, MLK, Jr. does not rate a national holdiday. It's thats simple.
Name: Tom Trottier (tom.trottier@gte.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (14:40:22)
Let's all get along. Let's live as Jesus showed us. Make good use of the holiday, read the bible. The Bible contains all you need "LOVE".
Name: Robert Stallings (RDSEagle@bellsouth>net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (14:38:47)
Martin L. King Jr. was trained by the Communist Party
and was financed by the Communist Party, although I do
agree with his dream that no one should be judged by the
color of their skin or their religius beleifs. All men should
held responsiblefor his own actions and words and not
be a burden on society .
Government does nothing to produce wealth, so therefore
if you receive any aid or substance assistance from the
Government then you are a burden on other citizens that
work and provide these things for themselfs and families
and could provide more for their family if the Government
did not take from them a part of their wealth to give to a
person that ha sno job, want's no job , makes no effort to
get a job.
I say to this person living off my back , "you are a millstone around the neck
around the neck of all productive Americans for if it were
not for you I could give a lot more to my family and if I cho-
ose to give any amount to a charity of my choice I will do
so ,but I resent having to support you against my will.
Thank you for this opportunity to get this off my chest.
Robert Stallings
Name: Gene Duncan (gduncan@undata.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (14:34:47)
I am glad that someone has the balls to say what needs to be said about the politically correct and outrageous idea of a holiday for the late racist, Martin Luther King, Jr.
Name: Mari Dobbs Ingison (firstcircle1@juno.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (14:17:19)
I disagree with Outrage. An M.L.King is a great reminder to all of us of how much harm can be done by the tyranny of a majority (read the Federalist Papers.) It also renews our faith in one person's ability to make a difference. Hurray for Martin Luther King and his day.
Name: Not hostile...only disillusioned (No email address provided)
Time: 1/16/2000 (14:12:57)
Character Counts. MLK had little, if any! You canNOT seperate a man's character and his deeds. MLK's private deeds reflected his non-character. While he advocated a color blind society what his followers now perpetuate is a color conscious society where everyone makes "extra" for black color people. This is not what MLK supposedly stood for. No character... NO holiday!
Name: Romesh Chander (Romeshc@aol.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (14:2:3)
Abolish all holidays except the following:
Memorial Day
4th of July
Labor day
Abolish Saturday & Sunday as a weekend; make them regular working days; Make Monday & Tuesday as weekend days.
Name: xxxx (xxxx)
Time: 1/16/2000 (13:57:43)
MLK(like most blacks are today) was the most racist being on the planet. Try having a two minute conversation with a black without their bringing up race. It's always "poor me, you owe me something, say you like me or I'll report you, we be so wise and beautiful" and on and on. Most(and I say most because there are exceptions to everything) are foul mouthed, loud, obnoxious, stupid, and "jive idiots".And to them, anyone who doesn't like them is a racist. They are actually to stupid to realize that the problem is their culture and not their color. They've about ridden a good horse to death in this country. Slavery(anywhere on earth) scares me to death. But I'm not at all sure that blacks can handle freedom..from day one they abuse it and become like a "disease" to the rest of society. The saddest part is that the "non black" children of our country are being told that if they don't embrace and love every aspect of the black society, they should be ashamed of themselves. I would suggest to black Americans that they get the chip off their shoulder, learn to speak english, decide if they're African or American, get out of my face, and make their own way like the rest of us have to do. They need to realize that under a great many forms of government their type would be machine gunned down in about five minutes...they need to stop trying to "change" America. They've got a pretty good deal going here.
Name: tim (tlhaupt@aol.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (13:52:53)
I also have a dream. Where equality is not pre-determined by the amount of money I spend. Where race is merely an outer garment, irrespective of the inner man.
As far as giving credence to one singular man in the name of political correctness - perhaps one day our children will mock us as they encroach upon true freedom. Then again, perhaps they will delve even deeper into the depths of politically correct depravity and pseudo-moraility. '
Then again, perhaps not.
-t
Name: Allan (goois@aol.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (13:46:20)
Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presly, and Princess Di in the same paragraph as King? Gimme a break.I don't know if King is worthy of the honor--but the others? No way!
Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided)
Time: 1/16/2000 (13:42:31)
Martin Luther King was a horrible man and does not deserve any kind of honor. Let alone a National Holiday. He was a brutal womanizer and ardent communist he brings shame to all peoples involved in the civil rights movement. God have mercy on his soul.
Name: --Anonymous-- (tate@ridgenet.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (13:31:11)
Certainly agree with today's outrage.
Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided)
Time: 1/16/2000 (13:21:16)
I think many of the people who support the King holiday have no idea what Dr. King was really like. The FBI had a number of files on Dr. King that are unfortunately sealed until the year 2027.
In January, 1987 a (now defunct) publication called Conservative Digest ran a rather long article about these FBI files (apparently a few "trusted" people have been allowed to see them). The bottom line, according to the article, is that the files indicate that King was an embezzler, was sexually immoral, and had relationships with Soviet agents.
One paragraph from the article reads as follows:
[Begine quote:]
It is interesting to note that the F.B.I.'s assistant director in charge of
domestic intelligence, William C. Sullivan, thought there were four solid
grounds for Bureau investigation of King, reported Professor Garrow:
"embezzlement, employing prostitutes, alienating wives' affections from their
husbands, and violation of the Mann Act" - a federal crime which involves
taking women across state lines for immoral purposes. Little wonder that a
typical Bureau memo on this man spoke of exposing "King for the clerical fraud
and Marxist he is at the first opportunity."
[End quote]
The article briefly speculates that his murder may have been at the hands of the Communist agents who feared that his ties to the Communist party were about to be publicly exposed.
Nobody doubts that Dr. King's death advanced the cause of civil rights, but the question is whether we should honor the memory of a particular person who had so many character defects. In short, does a person who apparently was fairly bankrupt in the areas of character and morals deserve to be held up as an icon before our children?
If so, then I expect we'll soon be getting Bill Clinton's birthday off as a national holiday. We could even use it to advance another currently popular cause - the prevention of sexually transmitted disease!
In fact, we could export this idea. The Russians ought to give the kids a day off for Joseph Stalin, and the Germans for you-know-who, to remind people about the need for population control. After all, it seems the cause is more important than the person anyway, or so some of those who have already posted here would have us believe.
Name: Jeff Eatherton (jeather253@aol.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (13:0:19)
Your comments are right on the mark. Keep up the good work!
Name: Faye McNutt (ffm2000@webtv.net) Time: 1/16/2000 (12:52:13)
The people didn't decide this great honor of a national holiday for King. We were coericed into it! They are continuing this tactic every day. Reagan towered over him for stopping the cold war.
Name: Janice C. Kelly (boxer2@accessatc.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:45:26)
What you have stated about MLK and the nonsense surrounding this man is true. Why do we have to endure the praises of a reprobate?
Name: Jo Jo (cyberspacejojo@worldnet.att.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:41:47)
Still haven't figured out why the kids get a day off for MLK. While we're at it, let's pick another 6 "heroes" and just take the whole week off. What the heck. You name it - let's make it a national holiday. I'm tired of the politically correct crowd and the thought police. Why is it no one can have an opinion anymore without being labeled a racist, bigot, etc.? Besides, what the heck did MLK do to warrant a day off for the kiddies and others? Make a speech? Big whoop.
Name: Steve (SF4JAVA@aol.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:37:51)
Dr. King was a great man of high ideals who brought about much needed change in America. Through his legacy, many Americans, both conservatives; as myself, and liberals, have moved beyond "our fathers" generations' attitudes of prejudice and racism. Despite his great accomplishments, many that will be enduring, there are other men and women of color and those not of color who are more deserving of a national holiday than Dr. King. Let me present a short list of "nominees" which is subjective at best. For consideration-Henry Ford, Clara Barton, Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Sackaweja, Guglielmo Marconi, Orville and Wilbur Wright, Fredrick Ganting, Alexander Fleming, Chester Floyd Carlson, Jonas Salk, the man (whose name escapes me at the moment, but was an African American) that discovered plasma Neil Armstrong, Jackie Robinson and countless others. We should not let race alone be the sole criteria for selection.
Name: Ken (budzek@msn.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:25:5)
If it's peace we're celebrating, why equate it with only one segment of the population? The black population of the US is only 13% yet have any white people attented MLK events? I guess it's to let them feel what it's like to be a minority. And you can't get rid of it as a holiday, Look at the Rodney King affair. Better to have a national human rights day. That everyone could celebrate.
Name: alix paultre (smartalix@yahoo.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:20:21)
Your latest outrage was humorous, but sadly misguided. Dr. King is honored not only for who he was, but the cause he represents.
Name: Carol Hoffman (cahoff@teleport.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:19:49)
Of course Martin Luther King deserves a national holiday.
Unlike Bill Clinton for instance, who would led you down the path of lies to better himself, MLK wanted a good, decent and secure life for EVERYONE.
I'm outraged only by the filthy-mouthed posters who hate anyone who isn't exactly like THEM -- white, hateful, malicious, spiteful, vicious, bigoted...
Name: Robert R. Travis (bobtravis@hotmail.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:19:45)
Yes, I do believe that MLK deserves a day of recognition for hi bravery and ideals and for breaching the walls of segregation. After returning to camp LeJeune after Korea, I was stunned to find that I couldn't bring a couple of my Korean vet black buddies to the USO to relax. THE USO, A GOVERNMENT FUNDED INSTITUTION, WAS RESERVED FOR WHITES ONLY. What a lousy message. Yes...He does deserve a day...at least.
I am a white coservative for Alan Keyes, the best man running for president. Let's get over prejudice...Vote for Alan.
Name: Doug (doudel@excite.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (12:7:48)
We have MLK Day because the Congress, the people's representatives,
made a decision that this particular American leader deserved
to be honored in this manner. Perhaps it was intended to be
a statement of American values as much as a way to honor
one man. Perhaps our lawmakers were saying that Americans
believe that all men are created equal, regardless of the color
of their skin. Based on some of the responses to the essay,
I'd say we still have a long way to go before we fully embrace
this ideal.
Name: diane (crazycamel@webtv.net) Time: 1/16/2000 (12:7:14)
We have distorted the word hero. Was it that long ago when heros were the ones saving people from burning buildings,nursing lepers in their final hours and risking life and limb to build roads thru the mountain passes?
We have turned pro ball players,politicians and those with fame and glory on their minds into heros while the true heros are seldom mentioned at all.
How can kids today have good heros if they never hear about anyone but the sports figures and those with a political ax to grind?
Name: John Brush (jbrush@aros.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (11:49:57)
Martin Luther King was as much a user and
abuser of women as bill clinton. He is just
another person in the world.
A holiday? Gimme a break.
Name: Harvey Bock (hbock@remc7.k12.mi.us)
Time: 1/16/2000 (11:48:26)
Although I consider myself a concerative, I have a dream
that one day we will live in a world where neither side will
feel the need to steriotype all those who disagree with us.
Instead we will deal with one another in grace, as God has
dealt with us in Christ.
Name: R. Odum (rodum@hotmail.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (11:45:2)
You nailed that one, guys!!! Keep up the great work in saying what most everone else is afraid to say...This country has a 'propaganda' machine equal to or greater than the old USSR ever thought about having...!!!!
Name: AMOX (No email address provided) Time: 1/16/2000 (11:43:12)
This is to the fool how wrote that us people that fight for this country are "Idiots". Let me tell you somethink 'BOY" if it wasn't for people like us you would still be a slave...
Name: J. Barrett (jmsfb@hotmail.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (11:40:5)
MLK does NOT deserve a day of his own. If we are to honor
someone, let's all have one day, IE President's Day as a hoilday of
remembrance. Not a national holiday for one man. We don't even have a day
to remember JFK and he WAS our president! Go figure.
Name: Path (pathfinderz@webtv.net) Time: 1/16/2000 (11:36:52)
First of all I want to say I am a racist. Most people do not even know the real meaning of the word. It means someone who loves their own race. God is the biggest racist known, He created them all. I could care less about this God-less goverment. I wait for the day He returns and shows us all how stupid we all were. Man and his worship of himself makes me sick. I do not celebrate any national holiday, most of all one for a black liar.
Name: Carrie Johnson (carriej_@hotmail.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (11:14:47)
i love that essay! that sums up every belief i have concerning racism, political lies, and our general lack of respect for anything in society! very well written!
Name: David Lentz (dlentz10@rochester.rr.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (11:2:5)
You posed the wrong question. Does the Reverend Doctor Martin Lurther King deserve to be the only American to have a national holiday in his memory?
David
Name: Carin (longneck@tminet.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (10:53:54)
Dr. King believed ALL people could live harmoniuosly and it was a greater vision than the seperatist rabble-rousers constantly stirring the pot, keeping people alienated from one another that we have now.
I think a day in honor of his work to advance not only civil rights but also his vision of a raceless society deserve remembering... maybe one day we can all see the error in our ways and look that way again.
Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided)
Time: 1/16/2000 (10:47:5)
Just as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People was formed, so should a National Association for the Advancement of White People be formed; the National Association for the Advancement of Indian People; the National Association for the Advancement of Asian People; ect... ect... ect...
Now you have the NAACP, the NAAWP, the NAAAP, the NAAIP and whatever other NAA?P you want to propagate for the 4th word. Just think, we will all be equal and no discrimination involved.
To those who feel they are discriminated against, go back to the homeland of your roots and see what happens!
Name: Joyce Rowin (stellastunning@usa.net)
Time: 1/16/2000 (10:11:50)
No, I do not feel MLK needs a national holiday....and congrats to whoever wrote the article, it was great.
Name: John (attila@privatei.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (9:40:50)
NO! mlk DOESN'T deserve a national holiday. He was a socialist for openers, and taught at a training camp for up an coming socialists. (socialist, since there never has been a true communist)
Name: Peace on Earth, Finally (nttsppl@hotmail.com)
Time: 1/16/2000 (5:41:18)
Chraracter really does matter.
MLK was more important than all the idiots fighting and dying for the United States.
Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided)
Time: 1/15/2000 (22:41:30)
Why is it that the term "caucasian" is not offensive to anyone, but the term "negro" is? It is my understanding that these are the familiar terms for the scientific terms "caucasiod" and "negroid". I suppose anyone who ever had to write a research paper for anthropology class is a racist?
Name: BIKERBOB (bikerbob77@yahoo.com)
Time: 1/15/2000 (22:27:9)
As a military veteran I cannot believe there is a national holiday for Dr. King. So many veterans of all races gave their lives defending this great nation. During WW11 while segregation was the norm, many minority G.I's gave everything they had because they believed that all men are created equal. What more noble thing can a human being do than to put his very life on the line for a country that segregates him from others? Dr. King did work for a noble cause but never had to suffer the horror of war.
Name: --Anonymous-- (No email address provided)
Time: 1/15/2000 (18:57:31)
I THINK THAT IS TRUE. I THINK HE DID A LOT OF GOOD THINKS FOR HIS PEOPLE. BUT JUST BECAUSE HE IS AFRO AMERICAN DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE SHOULD HAVE IS OWN HOLIDAY. THEN ITALIAN AMERICANS OR IRISH AMERICANS SHOULD ALSO HAVE THERE OWN DAY.
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